Thread: Is the US in danger of becoming a Totalitarian State?

Total-y relevant.

This is fucking ridiculous

Originally Posted by tommo

Total-y relevant.

This is fucking ridiculous

The FDA looking out for agro-biz and big pharma. AKA business as usual. They're no less corrupt than the legislature itself.

The government raiding a co-op on false pretenses is not just about looking out for big agro, it's a repression of decentralized food trade. I've been saying for months now how the central banks' endgame plan is not simply control over money (which they already have) but completely centralization of food, energy and water as a means to control all of humanity and all of civilization. This is evidence of their agenda.

^ AKA supporting "big agro".
Yes I agree. I wonder how far they'll get.

An anonymous source, going by the name of Sam, has sent photos to a talk show radio station of a FEMA training camp located at Fort Leonard, Missouri. Sam was contracted to work at the camp. He describes it as a “civilian inmate training camp” and has seen foreign troops in maroon and purple uniforms instructing troops in the use of baton tactics and crowd control techniques. Sam said there has been “incredible activity” at the camp since the passage of the draconian National Defence Authorisation Act. Prior to Obama’s signing the NDAA bill into law on January 1 of this year, there has been a push to outfit FEMA and Army camps around the United States. Documents on the effort were forwarded to the same radio statio by another state government employee who wanted to remain anonymous. In January, witnesses came forward with evidence of a FEMA rendition facility located at the airport in Los Angeles. FEMA camps are a touchy subject for the government. In December 2010, an episode on TruTV covered a story on FEMA camps, fusion centers and the police state did not re-air on TruTV after the government put pressure on the network.

Originally Posted by Supernova

As much so as any other democracy (although perhaps we are a bit closer than many). Remember though that if it happened, it could only happen slowly enough that no one noticed it happening. The people would not allow it otherwise.

On the contrary, perhaps the groundwork for totalitarianism is laid slowly with care to obscure it from the public, but the actual shift historically takes place very quickly usually as a result of some major catastrophe or conflict that scares the people in to handing over their freedom in exchange for quick and total government protection (perceived anyway). Hitler was the champion of the post WW1 depression ravaging Germany, Mussolini marched on the capital with 10,000 supporters and seized power over night, all of the communist totalitarian take overs were the result of violent uprisings or military coups.

As of now, the slow groundwork is already laid. The legislative framework for a legal totalitarian coup has already been established in the United States, and I'm sure in other countries as well although I don't know foreign laws as well as I probably should. The president now has the legal power to declare anyone a belligerent enemy combatant who then loses their right to trial so no evidence need exist to prove the accusation in the first place. They can then be detained indefinitely without access to representation until the end of hostilities as defined by the fictitious and semantically endless 'War on Terrorism'. There family members and personal contacts can all have their phones wiretapped without a warrant and anything they own can be seized by the government.

The US also has the political clout to enforce their domestic laws globally, so there is not even hope of asylum in another country for a political enemy of the US government. If you are a US citizen and you believe the US government should be destroyed by any means necessary and advocate that others take action, which is theoretically protected under free speech, there is historical precedent that you will be hunted down and killed even if you flee to another country.

Originally Posted by cmind

The problem is power. Who buys that power is immaterial. It just so happens that the banks have the money, so they buy the power.

Its disingenuous to say 'it just so happens', as if to imply that these circumstances came about by accident and it could be anybody in control. The banks create the money, so of course they are the ones that have it. There is a reason why this very small, very private segment of the population has the power to create and destroy the wealth of the rest of the world, they have been doing it for a very long time. 1/3 of the world's Gross Domestic Product belongs to Central Banks.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

An anonymous source, going by the name of Sam, has sent photos to a talk show radio station of a FEMA training camp located at Fort Leonard, Missouri. Sam was contracted to work at the camp. He describes it as a “civilian inmate training camp” and has seen foreign troops in maroon and purple uniforms instructing troops in the use of baton tactics and crowd control techniques. Sam said there has been “incredible activity” at the camp since the passage of the draconian National Defence Authorisation Act. Prior to Obama’s signing the NDAA bill into law on January 1 of this year, there has been a push to outfit FEMA and Army camps around the United States. Documents on the effort were forwarded to the same radio statio by another state government employee who wanted to remain anonymous. In January, witnesses came forward with evidence of a FEMA rendition facility located at the airport in Los Angeles. FEMA camps are a touchy subject for the government. In December 2010, an episode on TruTV covered a story on FEMA camps, fusion centers and the police state did not re-air on TruTV after the government put pressure on the network.

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