Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
Most men I meet just say its the "womens choice" so its enlightening to see guys who are upset that they're powerless to have any say over their childs fate.

This entire issue, pro-choice, pro-life, whatever makes me sad. All arguments focusing on the abortion and fetus become circular arguments, society as a whole can't decide when the fetus is a human person. And it doesnt help that feminism tried so hard to fight for equal rights while completely ignoring that men and women are fundamentally biologically different. "Bad" feminism made women want to be biologically just like men, free from the burden of pregnancy and free to have sex as they please without a care. But that's just never true.

Women who believe this lie about their own bodies just end up having unwanted pregnancy after unwanted pregnancy. (duh)

We need to nullify the need for abortion by starting at the fundamentals of the problem......Women...are not......men.

Women get pregnant, not men. Pregnancy is natural and necessary for the continuation of life. Pregnancy is not a parasitic disease, nor is birthing a new human being anything to be taken so lightly. All women should understand their own bodies and what it means to carry and bring new life into this world before they even start their first menstruation cycle. And its because women especially are the ones who get pregnant, they need proper sex education starting at a young age.

Teenagers need more than just sex education - they probably need relationship education too. Why are teenagers having sex with someone they don't even love? Its stupid especially for a teenager. Why are they literally committing suicide because they were dumped? Its a tragedy, teenagers need a lot of relationship help.

Sex education needs to teach why adults frown on teenagers having sex. Its called maturity.

If you're 30 years old and in a loving committed relationship and an unwanted pregnancy happens, there's no getting around it - especially if its your first pregnancy and you're healthy, society would consider it immature and childish for you to get an abortion. At some point, you're expected to take responsibility for your actions and accept parenthood -----its what grown ups do.

If teenagers are too immature to act like adults, then they shouldn't be having sex - period.

Now I'm not saying that its morally wrong for teenagers to have sex. But I will say our culture completely lacks a rite of passage into adulthood and even adults graduating from college still question if theyre still kids. The quincenera originally was when a 15 year old GIRL becomes a 15 year old WOMAN. It meant she had the right to marry, to have sex, and become a mother - at the age of 15!! And by taking part in the quincenera, this 15 year old was herself acknowledging that she was ready to be mature.

We completely lack any of this in our culture. Lets figure that out.
15 is a ripe child bearing age. We get hung up on this 18 year rule like everything under that age is offensive. Truthfully, as a society gets more educated, the age where women start bearing children raises, which is a good thing in my opinion. We're getting past the age when we had to breed so much that once a girl hit puberty it was time to take advantage of her baby factories and make more little parasites. But it's important to remember where we came from if we want to address our problems now. It's important to remember why teenagers have such strong urges to fuck each other's brains out.

Honestly there are a ton of lessons missing from school. Not just on relationships but general life experience that prepares people to live in the real world. But again, it goes back to where we came from. Not too long ago the way to prepare kids for the real world was to get them married, get the man in a good job and the woman pregnant and competent at house keeping. Church would teach the moral side of things and school will get them ready for academic pursuits. Society changed faster than our education system could keep up and it needs direction to understand how it needs to adapt.