Thread: Vision Quest

Originally Posted by Original Poster

PhilosopherStoned will belittle anything slightly related to hippy culture and act like there's nothing substantial related to any of it..

This is actually an ad hominem attack. There are so few of them that I thought I'd point it out. The reason it's ad hominem is because you tried to say I was wrong based on some personality trait that I have rather than actually addressing my argument.

It's also wrong.

I love hippy music in case you haven't noticed. What I don't like is that hippies have no respect and piss all over everything as is evidenced by their constant butchering of science, Taoism and Buddhism.
I love hippy drugs. DMT is awesome. It doesn't contain an answer to spiritual questions though. I can tell you straight up it doesn't show you how anything "really" is, it's just the same underlaying reality interpreted through different mechanisms. That's all.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

I can tell you straight up it doesn't show you how anything "really" is, it's just the same underlaying reality interpreted through different mechanisms. That's all.

For my part, I don't think I disagree with you. We do know that a person's learned biases can shape their perceptions of the world, literally and figuratively. All I'm saying is that a drug like DMT can make a person see things in a different and potentially helpful way, just as getting in a car crash can make a person see things differently.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

This is actually an ad hominem attack. There are so few of them that I thought I'd point it out. The reason it's ad hominem is because you tried to say I was wrong based on some personality trait that I have rather than actually addressing my argument.

It's also wrong.

I love hippy music in case you haven't noticed. What I don't like is that hippies have no respect and piss all over everything as is evidenced by their constant butchering of science, Taoism and Buddhism.
I love hippy drugs. DMT is awesome. It doesn't contain an answer to spiritual questions though. I can tell you straight up it doesn't show you how anything "really" is, it's just the same underlaying reality interpreted through different mechanisms. That's all.

I don't believe you've ever done it, or it's been so long you've forgotten it, because your description is really off-base.

Originally Posted by Original Poster

I don't believe you've ever done it, or it's been so long you've forgotten it, because your description is really off-base.

I've done it multiple times. Recently too. I can do it anytime I want because I live on Maui. Everything grows here. I know where I can go pick from a Banisteriopsis vine and I know where the Psychotria grows right next to it And I could get permission to pick it. Also, My mom owns a whole sale nursury which I grew up living/working on; my stepdad was a landscaper that gave me a dime for every plant I could ID on road trips; and my real dad is a landscaper/permaculturalist. So, unlike most dumb hippies (such as yourself) I actually know plants. Fuck, I even got training (on the North American east coast) as an herbalist. Know what plantain (a.k.a. "Whiteman's Footsteps") does? Quick, go check google. It's an antispetic and eating the seeds makes you smell bad to mosquitos.

So I know all about DMT from experience.

What I question is your spiritual maturity given the fact that you apparently believe that DMT shows you some "underlaying"reality".

@cmind. The car crash is a good analogy. Since Zhaylin is already seeing things in a different way, I don't think that she needs a car crash. If she was still a slave to biblical literalism, I might agree with you. She's not so she should take some time to settle into her new groove and then play around with that stuff if she wants to. It's really just a game though. Anything that can be done with drugs can be done better without them.