I hope I am not breaking protocol by bringing this up again, but the prior thread was closed. I came to it inadvertantly because of a comment Sageous made to me. If anyone is worried about it, I really don't think Frank will find this new thread.

I don't mind saying that I found the thread immensely entertaining. I laughed out loud many times. Not so much at what Frank said, but at the hilarious responses. I wish it was still going. I'm not sure what it was that frightened admins into stopping it.

Anyhow, I have met many Franks. He is probably a schizophrenic. Many of them are homeless. When I see them, I often stop and spend time with them. Sometimes I need to just sit with them for an hour before they trust me enough to open up. I don't get much from doing this, but I find it interesting.

What I have found is that they seem to feel very strongly about their perspective. They do notice that others do not understand them. They feel that their insight is so important that they need to keep trying to get it across. Most give up trying. Props to Frank for continuing to try. I do not believe that he was a robot. I do not believe that he was promoting a book. I believe that he was promoting a vision that he believed was true, even though it was incomprehensible. Einstein's vision was incomprehensible to all but about 5 people when he introduced it.

It seemed that he had realized that the dream world experience was an avenue worthy of true scientific exploration, perhaps an avenue to a cosmic understanding of reality that was revolutionary. I would hope that anyone interested in a deeper understanding of lucid dreaming might be sympathetic to this perspective.

It is possible that Frank was "crazy" and it is also possible that Frank was "genius". It is possible that Frank was incapable of communicating a perspective that was as far beyond our understanding as it would be for someone to try to explain radio wave frequency to a person 300 years ago.

I would like to congratulate the community at Dreamviews for trying so diligently to communicate with Frank, but especially to Havago who did an excellent job of rephrasing his sentences into normal language.

JJ