Revenge can give someone the will and bravery to seek out and deal with a dangerous villin. The true tragedy of mankind is that often revenge is saught against a group or ethnicity instead of the guilty individual. |
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Why do people like revenge so much? As if getting back on someone is going to reverse the things he did to you? The only reason you should hurt someone back is to prevent it from happening. That's the whole point of punishment right? Punishing someone so he doesn't do it again. But just raging, being blinded by emotions and just hurting someone back because you're mad at him? That is just irrational. |
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Revenge can give someone the will and bravery to seek out and deal with a dangerous villin. The true tragedy of mankind is that often revenge is saught against a group or ethnicity instead of the guilty individual. |
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People have always felt justified in their cruelties. There is always a reason that their victims deserved it in their minds and this way of thinking is still very much alive. The truth is it is simply bloodlust. Any justification for it is just an excuse. Civilized people do not look for excuses to commit acts of bloodlust and cruelty because they realize that bringing suffering to the world for no other reason than to make yourself feel better is evil, no matter what horrible things the other person did. We conflate punishment with justice because we have a warped idea that adding more negativity to a negative situation somehow evens things out. I do understand the usefulness of punishment as a deterrence, but I also understand very clearly that deterrence is not often the objective people have in mind when calling for "justice." We like to make "bad guys" suffer because it makes us feel good but it's still sadism even if you think the other guy had it coming. |
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Last edited by Onion; 10-16-2014 at 05:45 AM.
It's in our DNA. It evolved because revenge sends out the message that people need to not fuck with the person who got revenge. All of us are capable of wanting revenge for terrible acts done to us. I think justice partly involves revenge, and getting justice helps to bring closure to a bad situation involving having been wronged. |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking like this. Violence is only justified if it is used as a deterrent. |
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Ginsan, what is the worst thing anybody has ever done to you? |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
I don't know man, life has been pretty soft for me. I did get mad at someone last winter, a scumbag got drunk and made his daughter (who I fell in love with) cry. Sometimes my blood boils by thinking about it, I'm not planning on taking revenge though. Why do you ask? And what is the worst thing someone has done to YOU? |
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I already had an idea, the comments in this thread just made me sure of it. And your answer is not the right one, I don't understand revenge because I didn't have anything exceptionally bad happen to me? That's bullshit. Perhaps I slightly misformulated the title, it should have been "I don't understand why people give in to hate and take revenge" |
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As Aristaeus said, your lack of having anything majorly wrong done to you is why you don't understand revenge. If you or someone you love is ever physically attacked for no good reason or something on that level happens, you will understand revenge because you will want it so bad it will drive you up the wall. My cousin got shot in the arm and hip for talking to his ex-girlfriend, my brother has been help up at gun point twice, my sister got her ribs broken for smarting off to a woman who was being a total bitch, and I have been physically attacked over nothing multiple times. When that stuff happens to you, you don't just sort of want revenge. You crave it. Nobody is above it, though some people have a stronger will to say they are above revenge after an attack and pretend like they don't want it and some people are scared to say they want it because of fear of further attacks. The desire is still there. The will for revenge is an instinct. We all have the potential for it. |
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How do you know you are not dreaming right now?
Revenge is rational, that's why it evolved in the first place. You can't let your attacker (or groups of attackers) just walk free. That makes it more likely that they will attack again in the future. Now, when this gets extended to people who are not involved, that's a glitch. But it's an understandable extension of the existing (and correct) instinct for self-preservation. |
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Right now I'm thinking "I'm not like that, I will never do that". But that is what everybody says, until something happens. Nothing I say has any meaning, it's like an infant telling a company boss how to run his business better. I feel rage too, I punch walls just because I can't win in a videogame. But I think I'll keep my sanity and prevent myself from making the situation more dangerous than it is when something really happens. |
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The problem I have with revenge is that all it does is prolong conflict. |
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"you will not transform this house of prayer into a house of thieves"
Back in the days, I used to feel that I wanted to punish anyone who did any "wrong doing" to me or others. At least ten times as hard back to them. Luckily I took those emotions of revenge to the gym istead of acting out all those crazy ideas of revenge that my mind came up with. And today I can really feel that Im done with those feelings of revenge after dealing with that. I now know that revenge for sure are one of the most stupied things to engage in. Revenge could of course be hard/impossible to understand If you never felt like that before though. |
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Last edited by DreamyBear; 10-17-2014 at 09:44 PM.
You are not your thoughts...
I train hard at the gym 3 times a week, heavy strength training followed by light cardio. It extremely effective in taking out the daily grind, I'm not reborn after every workout but it definitely gives me new life energy, it keeps me fresh, even boredom feels less boring. I don't know if the gym will be as effective for heavy feelings of revenge. The best thing is to be smart, try to prevent something from happening and hope you'll remain smart when it does go bad. |
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Revenge could be as little as punching him, pushing him, or even warning him and telling him to back off. The tiniest thing can cause trouble against the wrong person. |
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You are not your thoughts...
Most strong feelings can never be solved, only diluted enough so it is weak enough to be controlled. |
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meow meow meow |
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Telling them to back off is trying to prevent someone abusing your girl. Punching them is not revenge, as you said that is just being drunk. |
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i feel a lot more freer when i'm able to forgive. like a huge weight has been lifted off me. but i can also understand the desire for revenge. in most situations i feel its just petty and childish but in some situations i think revenge is necessary. |
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forgiving makes you look like a bigger man. |
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