Thread: What's the dealio with GOP candidate Ron Paul?

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I don't think he is sexist or anti-gay, at leat not based on what you linked. He is just a big time states' rights supporter.

It is misogynistic to strip women of their rights to make decisions regarding their own bodies - in favour of a clump of cells no less. Funny how Ron Paul's claims of an individual's rights to personal privacy ends at a women's right to choose (which is a private, personal decision). He's a woman hating hypocrite.

It is anti-gay to deny homosexuals the same rights to legal union. Ron Paul is very crafty and purposely avoids saying things like "I think gays are dirty and evil" but his actions in office and the fridge organizations in which he participates support that very idea.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

It looks like there is some question as to whether or not he really made the comment about 95% of D.C. black men being criminals. It would be surprising if a man in Congress actually said something like that publicly.

Red the links again. Not only did he make these racist comments on his own political newsletter, but he openly accepts support from Stormfront, a white supremicist website.

Please explain in detail how the following comments, made by Ron Paul himself, are not racist.


Ron Paul said:

"Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots. Many more are going to have difficultly avoiding the belief that our country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists -- and they can be identified by the color of their skin. This conclusion may not be entirely fair, but it is, for many, entirely unavoidable.

Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country. Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5% of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty, and the end of welfare and affirmative action.... Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the "criminal justice system," I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.

If similar in-depth studies were conducted in other major cities, who doubts that similar results would be produced? We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational. Black men commit murders, rapes, robberies, muggings, and burglaries all out of proportion to their numbers."


Here's another link, just for good measure.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

If he thinks HIV does not cause AIDS or that the gay lifestyle shortens life expectancy by twenty years, then that is just what he believes as a medical doctor.

It is a scientific fact that HIV causes AIDS. Conversely, there is no scientific validity to the idea that who you choose to have sex with shortens your life.

By going against the proven scientific facts of medical science, while supporting unvalidated theories, his credibility as a doctor is seriously threatened and it is my personal belief that he should not be practicing medical science because his mere "opinion" becomes dangerous and misleading when dealing with patient's lives.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

He would not be a bad person for thinking that stuff is true. You can believe things like that and still think they are unfortunate.

If Ron Paul does think certain things are bad, that is fine as long as it stays his personal opinion. When he tries to bring about legislation that supports his fringe opinion and oppress the freedoms of the majority, then it is a problem.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

However, that is a very fringe view for a medical doctor to have, but it is not like I am any position to argue with him on it, and I'm not sure you are either.

I will always argue when someone tries to push their unsupported, fringe belief on the majority, and if you value your freedom, you will too. I am not saying that he should be censored, but I will gladly use my right to free speech to counter hateful, bigotted drivel.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

All we can say is that the vast majority of medical doctors disagree with him on those points.

Amen to that! Ah, sorry for the tl;dr but I think it is important that people consider the values that Ron Paul operates under, other than the fact that he is against the war in Iraq.