Who will you vote for? UPDATED

**Grod** · 03-03-2008 05:26 AM

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

and her plans for healthcare.

You know universal health care is a socialist idea, right?

**Spartiate** · 03-03-2008 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Grod

You know universal health care is a socialist idea, right?

Social progression in the US is a big no-no.

**dragonoverlord** · 03-03-2008 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Grod

You know universal health care is a socialist idea, right?

Socialism will prevail!!!!

**Grod** · 03-03-2008 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by dragonoverlord

Socialism will prevail!!!!

History tells us otherwise...

**dragonoverlord** · 03-03-2008 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Grod

History tells us otherwise...

Umm....get ready for round 2!

**Original Poster** · 03-03-2008 07:05 AM

Ron Paul wasn't in it because he has chosen to start concentrating most of his efforts on his reelection to the house.

**Bearsy** · 03-03-2008 07:20 AM

Originally Posted by Lord Bennington

I don't think we should get into a war with Iran. Honestly, it's pointless. What we need to do is send a few nukes their way. If all of the Middle East is destroyed in the process, they had some WMD's. If not, they hate us anyway and were going to get some and kill us. Win-win situation.

Wow, talk about American fucking Ignorance.

A win-win is causing a nuclear holocaust?

They don't "all hate us anyway" they hate that our government is so arrogant to try and force Western Ideals on the rest of the world, they hate that we constantly try to police the world, they hate that we've been bombing the Middle East regularly since 1991 with no excuse to do so.

EDUCATE YOURSELF before you spew hate like this, please.

**Bearsy** · 03-03-2008 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Social progression in the US is a big no-no.

**Xox** · 03-03-2008 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by Lord Bennington

I don't think we should get into a war with Iran. Honestly, it's pointless. What we need to do is send a few nukes their way. If all of the Middle East is destroyed in the process, they had some WMD's. If not, they hate us anyway and were going to get some and kill us. Win-win situation.

Very, very ignorant.

Originally Posted by Elis D.

Wow, talk about American fucking Ignorance.

A win-win is causing a nuclear holocaust?

They don't "all hate us anyway" they hate that our government is so arrogant to try and force Western Ideals on the rest of the world, they hate that we constantly try to police the world, they hate that we've been bombing the Middle East regularly since 1991 with no excuse to do so.

EDUCATE YOURSELF before you spew hate like this, please.

Well put, Elis.

**Bearsy** · 03-03-2008 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Xox

Well put, Elis.

Anything for you

**Jeff777** · 03-03-2008 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Not really...

I'll give him credit for studying Joel Osteen and completely inmitating him, but otherwise he's a flake.

Lots of talk with not a lot of experience.

Clinton has experience in the WH, and that's what counts.

Not to mention her involvment in other international affairs and her plans for healthcare.

The experience Clinton "claims" to have over Obama...is just that of being the "First Lady." Obama has accomplished far more if you ask me, he's gotten in the trenches and done his fair share of work.

**CiD** · 03-03-2008 05:25 PM

she has more white house experience. She has been in the white house during many tough decisions and she has an idea of whats important and whats no so important. Other than that, Obama has had more time holding office. Obama still has my vote, she is annoying. I have heard many women dont like her because they feel she conceded to her husband when he cheated on her.

27 · 03-03-2008 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Not really...

I'll give him credit for studying Joel Osteen and completely inmitating him, but otherwise he's a flake.

Lots of talk with not a lot of experience.

Clinton has experience in the WH, and that's what counts.

Not to mention her involvment in other international affairs and her plans for healthcare.

What experiance? She was the first lady, not the president. She has experiance living in the white house, not running the country.

**ChrissyMaria** · 03-03-2008 05:57 PM

I voted for Ron Paul, wouldn't vote for anyone else, unless Ron Paul's son was running for president. Which he may one day

His names Randall Paul, then theres Ron jr. Paul

so don't fret, his family is big, and theres alota libertarians in his fam!

**Alric** · 03-03-2008 07:06 PM

The one thing I learned from this election is that there is a great many people who want america to be a socialist country. I am totally different on the other hand. I think most people want to go socialist because they think the government will take care of them, they are kind of afraid of what will happen if the government isn't there to support them. Well maybe its scary but people have to stand up on their own two feet. Government isn't always the answer to everything, infact its normally one of the worst answers. That is what I believe and thats why I dislike socialism.

**ChrissyMaria** · 03-03-2008 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Alric

The one thing I learned from this election is that there is a great many people who want america to be a socialist country. I am totally different on the other hand. I think most people want to go socialist because they think the government will take care of them, they are kind of afraid of what will happen if the government isn't there to support them. Well maybe its scary but people have to stand up on their own two feet. Government isn't always the answer to everything, infact its normally one of the worst answers. That is what I believe and thats why I dislike socialism.

there are alot of Socialist in America, because in America, there are alot of LAZY people who want the government to do everything for them.

And thats why Ron can't win, the american people have no responsibility for their democracy, it has been converted from democracy to soft-fascism/socialism

when the people get off their fat lazy mcdonald eating asses and realise that the government doing everything for you screws things up, then a libertarian can win, until then, theres no hope due to the lazyness and socialization of america.

**Sornaensis** · 03-03-2008 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by CiD

clinton = annoying
huckabee = out
mccain = old/like bush: thinks war is just a state that the country is in (cant say because hes rich, obama was born rich)

I picked Obama (WHO ISNT A FUCKIN MUSLIM). For sake of arguement, where is Nader?

Obama is a Muslim Extremeist...

Originally Posted by Grod

You know universal health care is a socialist idea, right?

Of course, and look at it's succes in other countries that have socialized medicine.

**Man of Shred** · 03-04-2008 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

What argument? I made a statement.

statements contain arguments, or at least are the results of arguments. prepare to be challenged. I speak my mind.

**Bearsy** · 03-04-2008 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Obama is a Muslim Extremeist...

You seem to be insistent on this fact... you are joking, right?

**Grod** · 03-04-2008 02:50 AM

Hillary Clinton's and Barrack Obama's policies are virtually the same, are they not?

**dragonoverlord** · 03-04-2008 03:08 AM

I dunno

**Cyclic13** · 03-04-2008 04:07 AM

That's because today's politics aren't about dealing with the issues but how well you can dance around them....

**dragonoverlord** · 03-04-2008 04:09 AM

Originally Posted by SolSkye

That's because today's politics aren't about dealing with the issues but how well you can dance around them....

Ya its called PR or spin. Today ever politician/government official and people who have to deal with the media are trained in it.

Basically its the art of being asked a question and then not answering the question but not to let the asker know it.

**Cyclic13** · 03-04-2008 04:16 AM

The biased media spin. That's another problem in itself. Any reporter working for a major news network that calls themselves a real journalist in this day and age is a lying sack of sh:t. It's more entertainment now, than news. All networks have their agendas, and they propagandize and control too many of the options and over how people think. So much so, that even rational intelligent people can fall prey to it if they sit in front of that box one too many times. We are creatures of habit, after all. You start to see it again and again and again, and suddenly you find yourself actually starting to believe the shit they spin.

Example: They blackout Ron Paul a few months before super tuesday despite the growing strength of his campaign, and all of sudden the average joe has never heard of him or thinks he's no longer a viable candidate come election time. Yet, the media gives the illusion of support to the clearly fringe and unelectable candidate Huckabee (with the least support and money raised) in order to create the illusion of fairness and showing that small guys still having a shot. Just imagine if they'd actually given Ron Paul the same coverage they gave Huckabee. He might've been neck and neck with McCain right about now. But, allowing that would be too dangerous. We can't have another questioning JFK-type in office. Meh. At least he got his message out to a few people and stopped a few other candidates campaigns dead in the water along the way.

Oh well, I suppose when you have that much power and control it'd be retarded not to use it to protect yourself from losing it, so hats off to them. Touché.