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      Can a mass of people be mind controlled to go to war?

      Watch this segment from mind trick magician Derren Brown.



      I believe the statistic is 1 out of 10 people are easily suggestible. Right now there is roughly 260 million Americans. Divided by 10 that is 26 million American easily succumb to the simplest of mind control methods. What are some methods of mind control?


      Pacing and Leading: You start by pacing someones reality and leading them to where you want to go.

      for example. Assuming you aren't SKIMMING this page but actually reading this this. And You are actually paying attention to what I am saying, hopefully. And as you can clearly the black words I have typed against the white or greying background of the page. And as Also Take notice of the whir of the fan in your computer, You notice how your breathe rate is slowing down. And as you breathe again and really pay attention to this paragraph, The more harder it is to pay attention, because you notice how sleepy you are becoming.

      Most of you didn't fall for that paragraph. However 10% roughly would have actually felt relaxed reading that paragraph. etc. What Does Television do? This exact thing! Remember when the planes hit the two towers? that was an event that the news Constantly paced. Over and Over again on the news, News reporters told you over and over again. "America has been attacked... YOU have been attacked. This REALLY Happened! This is what's happening. And so on. Then came the campaigns for war (leading). The Demands for Justice (more leading). Keeping Safe from Terror by buying products. Keeping safe from terror by passing laws.

      Then Came Iraq. The Same technique. also with Repetition, (another mind control technique)



      And Now It's gonna be Iran. Now you tell me. Can T.V. really manipulate you?



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      Very interesting social experiment. Quite illuminating.

      I think I agree with most of what was said here, except I don't think corporations are to blame. Capitalism is a good thing and is the only dam we have right now against the surge of totalitarianism. I think there exists an illusion that corporations are trying to control you because the corporations have been hijacked, to varying degrees, by the governments. The governments are behind this mass manipulation. The corporations are just unwitting hosts to the signal.

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      Drewmandan. I'll have to write this strategy down it's a mighty innovative one. But easy once you know how it's done.

      I'll call this trick: "Agreement combo.With Government/Corporation blinder"

      Description: Blaming governments as bad and corporations as good and playing them against each other in a conflict to distract the seeker from the real cause encapsulating target in new box view"

      Desperation: 7.4 Lucid alert: Orange

      Hope I didn't make your motive too transparent though. Since want to keep this exciting. Try to minimize the extremes of belief in governments being good and corporations bad. If you exaggerate the polarization too much you appear less legitimate considering most people don't have this much faith in either when they are used in this particular system of control they are experiencing. From experience most know of both as inhibiting. So use this knowledge in the combo.

      Suggestion:
      "I agree very illuminating Ranma. Governments are sometimes bad or good, Same as corporations". Then go on with your agreement blinder Combo.

      Extra tip:
      Most know that corporations have a complete Monopoly over the governments in terms of finance. State instead that corporations hi-jacked the governments for added realism.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix View Post
      Drewmandan. I'll have to write this strategy down it's a mighty innovative one. But easy once you know how it's done.

      I'll call this trick: "Agreement combo.With Government/Corporation blinder"

      Description: Blaming governments as bad and corporations as good and playing them against each other in a conflict to distract the seeker from the real cause encapsulating target in new box view"

      Desperation: 7.4 Lucid alert: Orange

      Hope I didn't make your motive too transparent though. Since want to keep this exciting. Try to minimize the extremes of belief in governments being good and corporations bad. If you exaggerate the polarization too much you appear less legitimate considering most people don't have this much faith in either when they are used in this particular system of control they are experiencing. From experience most know of both as inhibiting. So use this knowledge in the combo.

      Suggestion:
      "I agree very illuminating Ranma. Governments are sometimes bad or good, Same as corporations". Then go on with your agreement blinder Combo.

      Extra tip:
      Most know that corporations have a complete Monopoly over the governments in terms of finance. State instead that corporations hi-jacked the governments for added realism.
      Wow, I wasn't aware there was a catalogue of these things. Or did you just make that up? But I'm not really sure how you can possibly see corporations alone as any sort of threat. True, governments can use corporations to do much evil, but I don't see how corporations can be inherently evil.

      Consider, for a moment, what the world would be like if there were no governments but there were corporations.

      You could:
      -live anywhere
      -work anywhere
      -educate children in any way you see fit
      -own anything, save perhaps other human beings
      -buy any product, any drug, any new-age natural food crap you desire
      -pay no taxes whatsoever
      -change how your community works using the greatest power of all: money

      Remember, there are no governments, which means:

      -no 'race to the bottom' exploitation of the poor. Why? The poor can always leave an impoverished area because there are no borders and with no taxes travel is dirt cheap. Also, with no citizenships any human can apply for any job anywhere on Earth. And with no tariffs and subsidies, the impetus for 'race to the bottom' off-shoring would be lessened anyway.

      -no wars. War would be meaningless if borders didn't exist.

      -research into all forms of medicine would be allowed, including stem cell and cloning-derived therapies for terminal illness

      I admire your zeal, but please do not paint the wrong target. For gods sake, without our corporations we would be living in communism.

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      Wow, I wasn't aware there was a catalogue of these things. Or did you just make that up?
      I made it up just playing with you. Don't think I'm serious about that or anything

      The entire legal system called 'the law' is the terms and conditions of a private corporation. All those things you said were possible can be changed or restricted at any time by that law.

      You agree to live under that law as part of that private enterprise every time you say yes to the question: "Are you a citizen of the united states."

      But this strategy works globally, don't be fooled. What do you do when you're on a court? You play games. What is a court for and what does the judge of a game do.

      Where's your birth certificate? It represents this:




      Here is the court.

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      People won't do things they object to, while hypnotized, unless they want to go to war, i imagine they wont.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Volcon View Post
      People won't do things they object to, while hypnotized, unless they want to go to war, i imagine they wont.
      Correct. But you can dupe an entire population of people by feeding them false information.
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      When I turn on the television not only do I feel like I am in 5th grade again. But the entertainment is also very trivial in the way that even though it is 5th grade news and politics. And 5th grade neibours and home and away. And 5th grade movies and documentaries. Even at that 5th grade level, it's still propaganda and distracting from reality at the same time. Entirely a rubbish box transmitting garbadge.

      Everyone should have their own channel. A more integrated system better than the internet is basic.


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      Wow. O'Reilly is so dumb that letterman looks smart.
      157 is a prime number. The next prime is 163 and the previous prime is 151, which with 157 form a sexy prime triplet. Taking the arithmetic mean of those primes yields 157, thus it is a balanced prime.

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      And rapsters are even smarter than fox news.


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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I don't see how corporations can be inherently evil.
      First of all, corporations are bound by law to maximize profits. It's illegal for them to do anything that interferes with making profits for the shareholder.

      Second, corporations have no personal responsibility. Corporations have all the rights individual citizens do. If they break the law, there is no one to be held accountable. There's no one to do jail time. At worst, all they face are fines. Unfortunately, the profits they make from breaking laws are are so much greater than the fines levied against them, they just don't care.

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      this thread isn't as crazy as it could be, tv's mind controlling people? you haven't gone far enough into the deep ocean of insanity there are people who believe that tv's can mind control people, not by the images they project, or what's being said, but by the frequency of the tv alone. that the frequency tv's are set to directly influence our brain whether or not we want it to.

      the insane conspiracy goes onto to say that aliens channeled their thoughts into those who created tv's, so that an entire generation would be mind-fucked. *BABY BOOMERS, THANKS A LOT*

      the same is not true for the frequency on a computer. so we can watch the same news on tv, or read about it online and feel different about it. so the very same dark evil alien forces that want us to be lazy and watch tv, dislike the internet.


      DUN DUN DUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      this thread isn't as crazy as it could be, tv's mind controlling people? you haven't gone far enough into the deep ocean of insanity there are people who believe that tv's can mind control people, not by the images they project, or what's being said, but by the frequency of the tv alone. that the frequency tv's are set to directly influence our brain whether or not we want it to.

      the insane conspiracy goes onto to say that aliens channeled their thoughts into those who created tv's, so that an entire generation would be mind-fucked. *BABY BOOMERS, THANKS A LOT*

      the same is not true for the frequency on a computer. so we can watch the same news on tv, or read about it online and feel different about it. so the very same dark evil alien forces that want us to be lazy and watch tv, dislike the internet.


      DUN DUN DUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      That really isn't what I am talking about. but it sounds like it would make a good movie.
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      masses are "brainwashed" every day supposedly... what about those terrorist camps where from a young age kids are taught that the road to eternal royalty is self destruction and eventually a dramatic suicide. A majority of how that works is a simple case of being brought up to think no different, but humans have a built in survival instinct which tells us to stay away from harm, the terrorist organisations break away that instinct and encourage them to hurt themselves.


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