Thread: Dang - Cigarettes jumped from $3.75 to $7.42 a pack in one day.

Yeah, although why stop there - why not sell it pre-drunk for those who can't be bothered lifting the cup to their mouth??

Haha, you figure it out how and I'll market it.

Green Tea Gum exists

Originally Posted by zazeNate

I can see it now... pre-made, refrigerated coffee and tea.

Uhh... This totally exists.

Spoiler for pre-made crap:

Originally Posted by paragon

Yeah, although why stop there - why not sell it pre-drunk for those who can't be bothered lifting the cup to their mouth??

HA! Reminds me of Wall-e, with all the fat mushy people in floaty chairs.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

You're complaining that they're making you pay more for a stick that slowly kills you? So this is how the world works...we sprint away from a guy with a gun but salivate at the sight of a suicide stick. Hm.

He is complaining about his right to make his own damn choices.

I think you have little understanding of the pain of addiction. The cigarette companies are the culprit; not the victims.

Originally Posted by Never

He is complaining about his right to make his own damn choices.

I think you have little understanding of the pain of addiction. The cigarette companies are the culprit; not the victims.

I don't want to come across as combative, but I fail to see how the cigarette companies are the culprits. They are absolutely not victims, but they do not stick a cigarette in someone's mouth and order them to smoke it.

I've known enough people who have suffered through various addictions, cigarettes included. I know that quitting a nicotine addiction is one of the hardest things some people can ever do so I won't throw out the whole "Why can't you just stop?" At the same time, I have little sympathy for those who have decided to make the choice to start a smoking habit in the first place.

I just want to mention that if the US goes in the direction of socialized medicine (an idea I am strongly opposed to but I won't get into that now), it's in the government's best interest to get people to stop smoking. Taking preventative action keeps health care costs down. If you're fat, it's in the government's best interest to "help" you lose weight so you won't be prone to obesity-related/enhanced illnesses. Whether or not that's the deciding factor when it comes to raising taxes on cigarettes, I don't know. It's something to consider, though.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Even if they do, you won't.

I can't even start to express how I feel about this statement.

Originally Posted by Never

He is complaining about his right to make his own damn choices.

I think you have little understanding of the pain of addiction. The cigarette companies are the culprit; not the victims.

No, he is complaining about his "right" to kill himself. Big (contextual) difference.

I agree with Ame's on this one. Ever heard the saying "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink it"? In the aforementioned metaphor...the cigarette companies are the water and the horse are those who choose to smoke or not to smoke. Relieving yourself of personal responsibility over YOUR actions is voluntarily giving YOUR power to change YOUR SITUATION away to whomever YOU laid blame on. In essence...I'm saying what you said is by far one of the biggest cop outs I've ever heard. And while I never drank a glass of alcohol or put a cigarette in my mouth...I personally understand addiction very well.

Well you should know that nationwade the tobacco tax has increased by quite a bit it hasn't reached my state yet, but it's gonna happens soon. If you know where to look you can get the buy 1 get 1 frees for around 4.40 still, but single packs in the wrong place are around 6.00 outrageous.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

I can't even start to express how I feel about this statement.

You should take a communication class. It would do you some good!

Originally Posted by Amethyst Star

I don't want to come across as combative, but I fail to see how the cigarette companies are the culprits. They are absolutely not victims, but they do not stick a cigarette in someone's mouth and order them to smoke it.

I've known enough people who have suffered through various addictions, cigarettes included. I know that quitting a nicotine addiction is one of the hardest things some people can ever do so I won't throw out the whole "Why can't you just stop?" At the same time, I have little sympathy for those who have decided to make the choice to start a smoking habit in the first place.

Perhaps I worded that incorrectly. I am not trying to say that all the blame goes to the companies, but they do make cigarettes worse without telling you and increase the chances of you not being able to quit. Additives galore.

...and yes people make the choice to start. People make mistakes; they should not have to die for it. These companies should be annihilated. Period. (but that's a whole different topic)

Originally Posted by Jeff777

No, he is complaining about his "right" to kill himself. Big (contextual) difference.

I agree with Ame's on this one. Ever heard the saying "You can bring a horse to water but you can't make him drink it"? In the aforementioned metaphor...the cigarette companies are the water and the horse are those who choose to smoke or not to smoke. Relieving yourself of personal responsibility over YOUR actions is voluntarily giving YOUR power to change YOUR SITUATION away to whomever YOU laid blame on. In essence...I'm saying what you said is by far one of the biggest cop outs I've ever heard. And while I never drank a glass of alcohol or put a cigarette in my mouth...I personally understand addiction very well.

Lucky you. See above.

My response to you was more about how the smokers are being punished for being addicted to something; it is beyond greedy. Beating the addict will not solve the problem. That is my only point.

Edit: Actually it is not beating, but robbing the addict. That says a lot about motivation.

Just thought I'd include this for those who may not know that something like this exist. There's far too many options out there now and there really isn't a reason why someone should still be smoking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-cigarette

Originally Posted by wiki

An electronic cigarette (or "e-cigarette") is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as cigarettes, cigars, or pipes. It is a battery-powered device that provides inhaled doses of nicotine by delivering a vaporized propylene glycol/nicotine solution. In addition to nicotine delivery, this vapor also provides a flavor and physical sensation similar to that of inhaled tobacco smoke, while no tobacco, smoke, or combustion is actually involved in its operation.

Except that e-cigs aren't as good as the real thing. They're a good option for quitting though.

ewww you pay more to stink
ewww suicide sticks ewww
hehehehahhaaahahaaaa
You can die at any time of any day of any month.
You can walk out and inhale and falling acorn and choke to death.
Laugh about how rare and stupid that is, but who's laughin when it happens to you?
What if armageddon were tomorrow.. then would it matter if you godsent preachers smoked or not?
I'm glad you smell good,
cause I smoke cigarettes and shower regularly, chew gum constantly and wear a good dose of smell good...and lets have a better comeback then "well you wouldnt have to do all of that if you didnt smoke" half of you non-smokers have shit stained teeth and asscrack breath on a regular basis.
Live everyday as if it were your last, so smoke if you want and give a fuck less what anyone else says..who's lungs, who's choice?
I've seen half of the people on this thread talkin about some ridiculous things like 2012, Hobbits,etc..so dont act like your ignorance is any better then our "yellow teeth" and "stinky clothes"..
I'm sure all of you smell and look reaaaalll goood thank god for your ashtray-free houses!
I love how the author said "don't talk about how cigarettes are bad" and half of you still couldnt pass up the oppurtunity to be ignorant and immature.
Those Truth commercials are enough! Now those bastards are taking over the only place i can get away from those wastes of time.
Cigarettes are bad...so is incompetence..
we're equal.

P.s. Live above the influence and shit! and get that booger out your nose.

For me, I'd rather spend my money on something smarter than ciggs. What does smoking do you for you? Stick to weed.

I don't smoke, and never will.
Do you mind? Yes? Bad luck.

I wouldn't want my partner to be a smoker either.
I find the smell unbearable.
And I like people who have respect for their bodies.

Smokes have been 10 buck a pack for years now in Canada.

As a result, cheap indian cigarettes have flooded the (black) market, costing 10-20 bucks a carton. If the intended result was to increase tax revenue, then it was an epic fail.

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

For me, I'd rather spend my money on something smarter than ciggs. What does smoking do you for you? Stick to weed.

chyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
thanks to weed i now smoke cigarettes lol

in that case you are the definition of an addict, is it possible to be able to use something and not abuse it. Kid, youre doing the live life to the fullest speech, will your life be full when you are diagnosed with cancer ? Since all of our bodies are different, we respond to chemicals differently, for some people they can smoke their whole lives and be perfectly fine others, smoke for a few years, and they already have bronchial condition's, you may not even be aware of your families medical history, the smartest thing to do is not to smoke. If you still think it is not bad for you, it definitely isnt good for you, can you find an alternative to replace cigarettes.
As for the companies, they should get shut down but they wont due to the huge industry and the amount of taxes the government recieves. We should be able to sue them, but guess what they have a warning label on it, so we cant do sh1t. Looks like you are all suckers when you get lung or mouth cancer, and most importantly guess who is to blame.
Just so you dont think im a non-smoker, never smoked, bla bla bla, i have been smoking, and quite honestly i dont see how anyone can enjoy the amounts of phlem always in your throat from cigarettes, and then just think about the amount of tar you are ingesting, that turned me away from cigarettes. I quit one day, and never smoke again. No such thing as an addiction its all in the mind, if you really want to quit just realize how nasty it is, trust me your brain will overcome any desire. the addiction is a simply weakness, if you set your mind to it you can quit cold turkey

as every smoker knows.. it is damn hard tryin to quit. believe me i have tried plenty of times. the e-cig sounds pretty cool but i have tried avaporizer before and it just sucked balls. it tasted nasty and it wasn't enjoyable. so although it's better health wise, it's not so much in taste wise, and appeal. i know, although it tastes good it is not good for you, you'll be stinky and you can't get cancer, but hey, what about those of you that eat out? mcdonalds and bk aren't that healthy. you increase the risk of heart attack, and high blood pressure, it is bad for you, and your breath ends up smelling like onion rings and your hands are all greasy when i shake them... it's disgusting!!!!
so same point different subject...nways,
fags here are up to 6.40 here. i gotta quit...

try.. uk.. £5.35 for 20 ciggarettes.. thats what i pay.. hang on let me convert........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ....... $11.02 per 20 cig


ps i thought the person who started this thread specifically asked that it stay on the topic of cost and not another chance for non smokers to preach their bullshit

pps... in the case of the uk its the smokers who support the health service.. yes we use it eventually through smoking related illnesses.. but our tobacco taxes contribute so much towards it that if everyone quit they wouldnt even break even.

Originally Posted by juiceyfruit1714

chyeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
thanks to weed i now smoke cigarettes lol

You smokers are all the same!

Originally Posted by Never

He is complaining about his right to make his own damn choices.

I think you have little understanding of the pain of addiction. The cigarette companies are the culprit; not the victims.

I think the addiction is in the head
it is a lot harder after a while.
It is a habit.
I know someone who had many things to help her quit
like she had the habit of having gum or mints after she smoked
and if she had a mint, she wouldn't feel the need to smoke.
It might, unfortunetely be so bad that they are addicted...and can't stop with will power.

Well there are receptors in your brain that scream out for more nicotine when you even take a single puff after say 40 years. This never goes away. This is the physical addiction that is broken within a few weeks; so long as you do not ever smoke again. It is the simple science behind why cold turkey works the best. The harder issue is the subconscious programming that takes years to (completely) undo. Every neural connection that links a cigarette to literally thousands of activities. It can be undone....all of it....but it takes a good 8 months or so with bouts of agony, followed by a few years of wanting a smoke about once every few months or more.

Being addicted to "french fries" as some people might understand it, is no understanding at all.