Thread: "Absolutely torture."

Originally Posted by Alric

Tasering someone multiple times is torture. I have seen cases where people were tasered over and over even when they weren't resisting, and in cases like that its police torture, and it is very wrong.

That does not answer my question. Is tasering somebody at all when they resist arrest "torture"?

Originally Posted by Alric

Harder labor isn't torture as long as you don't work them until they drop. If you work them until they pass out from it, then yes that is torture, and its against the law and stuff.

Why is it not torture if they just work until they feel physical pain while being scared because they are in prison?

Originally Posted by Alric

Court isn't torture and you know it. That is just you being argumentative. There is no physical distress involved

They have to get up very early in the morning while they are in jail. That is awful for some people. Also, criminal trial is an emotional horror story... that goes on for days to months. The emotional aspect of waterboarding is what makes it suck so bad.

Originally Posted by Alric

Lets look at the reality of things though. The fact of the matter is torture is a very minor thing in the way of our daily lives. We don't see terrorists on the streets, they do not attack us, there hasn't been any attacks since 9/11. Terrorism was totally overblown to begin with. We are not in any real danger from them, and so even if we wanted to agree with you, we would not. Because there simply isn't any real threats that we need torture to stop.

We aren't having terrorist attacks because we keep stopping the attempts and preventing them ahead of time.

Originally Posted by Alric

To answer you question though, why do we hate people who torture others? Because torturing is an evil act. We are against torture, its in the US constitution. Torture is not tolerated, and it never should be.

I never asked that. I asked why the outrage is disproportionate to the outrage toward the terrorists.

Originally Posted by Alric

You know what? You like using bad examples to prove your point and you keep going to the extreme. Saying long trails are torture, so let me do the same. I will use a horrible disgusting example.

You have a terrorist who had planted a dirty nuclear bomb within a major city and you knew it would go off within an hour and he has resisted all torture so far. You have his baby son though. If you knew for a fact he would give up the information and you would save everyone in the city, would you put the babies head in a vice and crush its head while he watched?

I use very realistic examples. Wake up and stop acting like you were raised in Ice Cream Land.

Yes, I would crush the baby's head if I thought doing so would save an entire city. Would you let a whole city (thousands of babies included) die to save one baby?

Have you read the Trolley thread in the Philosophy forum?