Thread: I don't want Lucid Dreaming to be popular

EDITED: I'm in a bad mood. I shouldn't comment.

Hi guys, I'm kind of new to the forums, but I've been lurking. I think that lucid dreaming should be put as an optional class, because not everybody might like dreaming so much. Now about inception, yeah, many fans are gonna show up here, but most of them will give up after trying it for a bit. And Xegar, I totally get you on wanting it to be underground, because it doesn't feel that special later on, but in reality many people would benefit from this.

Dude, if everyone globally were all taught meditation and lucid dreaming in elementary school... imagine how different the world would be.

So much potential that humanity will never achieve... le sigh.

Oh well, guess I'll just have to take over the world and make them do it for their own good.

Originally Posted by Lakona

Dude, if everyone globally were all taught meditation and lucid dreaming in elementary school... imagine how different the world would be.

So much potential that humanity will never achieve... le sigh.

Oh well, guess I'll just have to take over the world and make them do it for their own good.

Or in Biblical style, would that everyone were a prophet. Or in Philosophical, would that everyone were a philosopher.

I quite agree. However, along with it, I would state that language is the key to self-realization.

Lucid dreaming is a language.

One of the main reasons I put my lucid dream research on hold. I was learning to understand and communicate. Now this put before me an important question. Man did not know the fundamentals of the languages he did use. The language of the lucid dream is much, much more difficult. So, if I were in fact learning the harder, then it had to be possible to understand and write the principles of the less, something man has been unable to do. So, either I was blowing smoke up my ass, or I had a very important task to perform.

Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Or in Biblical style, would that everyone were a prophet. Or in Philosophical, would that everyone were a philosopher.

I quite agree. However, along with it, I would state that language is the key to self-realization.

Lucid dreaming is a language.

One of the main reasons I put my lucid dream research on hold. I was learning to understand and communicate. Now this put before me an important question. Man did not know the fundamentals of the languages he did use. The language of the lucid dream is much, much more difficult. So, if I were in fact learning the harder, then it had to be possible to understand and write the principles of the less, something man has been unable to do. So, either I was blowing smoke up my ass, or I had a very important task to perform.

You're quite hard to understand, what are you trying to get across?

I don't think so.. I mean, it may get people's attention.. some might research.. some might try.. but you know how it is with these things, people will "try" and if they don't get immediate results, just toss it aside... I think we're safe hehe

Well it's not for everyone. Even if everyone was aware of lucid dreaming, only a portion would be motivated enough to take the time and effort. I think you got your wish.
I agree with you that it would get boring if this was something that everybody did.

Well what I wouldn't want is people thinking lucid dreaming is some kind of devil worship, or something that is "dangerous". You know, people who think they know what they are talking about when they just heard about lucid dreaming. Some of the things people on here say about their peers opinion on lucid dreaming is ridiculous. Especially when they are just hearing about it.

I'm not sure how I would feel about it being all mainstreamed though.

There are people who only listen to how a thing is said, and not what is said. For example, take scripture, pro or con, it clearly states that it is sealed to man's understanding, yet people do not react to the content, to the intentions, but only to what is popular about it.

Or take the Yoga Sutras, originally written by a non-religious Sanskrit Scholar, and translated beyond the recognition of its content.

Or even audio-books, it is not what is said, but the fact that it is read by a person, or by a machine language font system.

A real quest for understanding learns to disregard whether or not a thing is said by a rock, satan himself, or whether it is popular or not. He simply seeks understanding and truth of the matter. There will always be fools who follow the Pied Piper, and simply a few who hear the music of clear reality.

The most common bird in existence is the parrot. The rarest is a man.

Yeah I don't Lucid dreaming will become extremely mainstream.... actually not even mainstream. for the most part I only expect to find people really devoted to discovering info about their dreams will join our community. sometimes lucid dreaming will get the spotlight in the media and attract attention, but most of those immediate followers will lose interest. You will never have lucid dreaming reach a point to where you can discuss your lucid dreams/methods to anyone daily and have it all be understood.

I think that all of you guys are overestimating the average movie goer. In my opinion the only reason we are so interested in the lucid dreaming aspect of the movie is because we already know about it. The normal person that watches this movie will just see pretty women, lots of cool special effects, and good acting. The only people that will actually look into real aspects of the movie such as lucid dreaming, will be people that I personally would love to join our community.

I totally agree it would suck if like everyone knew about it

Actually here's egocentrism version 2... im pretty sure LDing is something special...... but my vote would be yeah sure... i would prefer lding to stay in the darkest corners of the world. if it was mainstream it would lose its touch that all of us are experiencing now... I.E what would happen if DV flooded? exactly.....

You could say Im being egocentric but I dont want to LDing to be mainstream, My argument is..... if you even cared.. 1 you would search and find out about lding.... 2 if you dont.. well you live and died without knowing.. no harm done. Even if someone does LD and others don't know about it, I still can't say you're special. You have to be truly dedicated to LDing to be "special".

I agree with you; if you're a part of the beginning of something large, once it does become large it can feel like you're lost in the crowd. That's all I really have to say on the topic.

I honestly would like to see more research and development put into lucid dreaming. No money in that unless it can sell.

Everybody breathes, maybe we should start by limiting the oxygen.

Somewhere in a distance, I faintly hear the music by which to do the goose step.

It won't be large. Most people are lazy and won't keep trying to do something if they fail right away.

Originally Posted by bored2tears

It won't be large. Most people are lazy and won't keep trying to do something if they fail right away.

It really is not lazyness. The human mind is designed to learn by experience to predict the results of behavior. Thus the depth of a person can be measured in terms of how far they can plan into the future. It is simply a lack of conceptual ability. An ability discouraged in education today--and discouraged by how social structures have been set up.

A wise man once said to forgive them, for they know not what they do. Can anyone know what to do when they do not know what they are and are for?

May as well blame the egg for not knowing how to fly.

I'll try to be objective and honest with myself and you guys here.
I share the original poster's opinion. I didn't work hard to obtain this. I didn't work at all. Gift of God or mother Nature. Irrelevant. I have something very few people have. And I don't want everyone to have it. That would make me ordinary, dull, insignificant. However, with this I distinguish myself and see myself head and shoulders above the crowd. I have a gift. A toy which everyone would want if they knew I had it. So I stay quiet about it.
I'd imagine that if I worked hard to get it I'd be even more insulted if everyone went "whoa dewd you oughta see what I dreamed of last night it was sooooo rad" and "sup gurl I totally dreamed of you last night and we had FUUUUN". Yeah, I'd be f****** disgusted.

Originally Posted by Blacklight

I'll try to be objective and honest with myself and you guys here.
I share the original poster's opinion. I didn't work hard to obtain this. I didn't work at all. Gift of God or mother Nature. Irrelevant. I have something very few people have. And I don't want everyone to have it. That would make me ordinary, dull, insignificant. However, with this I distinguish myself and see myself head and shoulders above the crowd. I have a gift. A toy which everyone would want if they knew I had it. So I stay quiet about it.
I'd imagine that if I worked hard to get it I'd be even more insulted if everyone went "whoa dewd you oughta see what I dreamed of last night it was sooooo rad" and "sup gurl I totally dreamed of you last night and we had FUUUUN". Yeah, I'd be f****** disgusted.

Honestly and truly, I am right there with you. The only difference is I work to 'spread the message.' Partly because I really do want them to experience this amazing phenomenon, partly so I have yet another person to speak with about it, but mostly because I know, even if they do manage to obtain some proficiency, I'll still be better at it and more knowledgeable than they are. So even if, eventually, I'm met with the misfortune of overhearing those kinds of conversations, despite my abhorrence, I'll smile smugly, knowingly.

Does this make me an egotistical douche? No, just egotistical. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to share my knowledge and help others reach their own potential. I do need rivals, after all.

Of course lucid dreaming should become popular!

Originally Posted by Blacklight

I didn't work hard to obtain this. I didn't work at all. Gift of God or mother Nature. Irrelevant. I have something very few people have. And I don't want everyone to have it. That would make me ordinary, dull, insignificant. However, with this I distinguish myself and see myself head and shoulders above the crowd. I have a gift. A toy which everyone would want if they knew I had it. So I stay quiet about it.
I'd imagine that if I worked hard to get it I'd be even more insulted if everyone went "whoa dewd you oughta see what I dreamed of last night it was sooooo rad" and "sup gurl I totally dreamed of you last night and we had FUUUUN". Yeah, I'd be f****** disgusted.

If you want to be "above the crowd", do it by bringing yourself up not pushing others down. Anyway, lucid dreaming is not a gift, anyone CAN do it, most just dont know about it. I suppose you'd prefer kids not learn to read in school so you can feel special?

I know what you're talking about, but, it would be so amazing to talk to everyone about my chain of five false awakenings (happened a week ago), or first lucid dream, or WILD/DEILD/WBTB/etc, attempt and them not ask "What on earth is that?"
Just sayin'.

Originally Posted by rhiannon

I know what you're talking about, but, it would be so amazing to talk to everyone about my chain of five false awakenings (happened a week ago), or first lucid dream, or WILD/DEILD/WBTB/etc, attempt and them not ask "What on earth is that?"
Just sayin'.

I remember a chain of false awakenings. I was being tested at the time. It took me a long time to undrestand it.

I was tested on what has been called the trinity, but the trinity is a metaphor. Perception, conception and will. It was while I was in college.

I do somewhat feel this way, I kind of want it to be small because it adds a uniqueness feel to it. But at the same time I want more people to know about it because I love to talk to people I know about it.

Most people i know seem to think its weird and freakish.