Thread: Possible Dangers Of Lucid Dreaming!

My opinion (as a qualified psychologist :] ) - a bunch of b***it

Show me the data, show me statistics, reports, research - then we can discuss
Sorry, but Wikibooks (especially without direct references to solid literature) is not a reliable source of information.

If you have no mental disorder, everything is fine. If you do however, then i guess, you are not able to achieve lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Tim_PL

My opinion (as a qualified psychologist :] ) - a bunch of b***it

Show me the data, show me statistics, reports, research - then we can discuss
Sorry, but Wikibooks (especially without direct references to solid literature) is not a reliable source of information.

If you have no mental disorder, everything is fine. If you do however, then i guess, you are not able to achieve lucid dreaming.

Ah, true but there hasn't been any sufficient statistics, reports, and research that proves there's a deity(or deities) yet the majority of society believes in them. I don't want to be gullible but I want to be open minded at the same time. Can I ask why you dismissed Wikibooks without a second thought? Also, where's the statistics, reports, and research that something that is hard cover literature versus online literature is better?
Has anyone even done a study on whether there ARE negative effects or not? How can we just claim "bull sh*t" if we don't have proof? Well, I don't at least. Do you?

PS: You're a qualified psychologist? I feel like you're gonna' say "there's somethin' wrong with this kid!" xD

Originally Posted by Luciel

Ah, true but there hasn't been any sufficient statistics, reports, and research that proves there's a deity(or deities) yet the majority of society believes in them.

Please, don't mix science and religion. It's one of the biggest mistakes. It doesn't bring anything to the discussion. Thank you

Originally Posted by Luciel

I don't want to be gullible but I want to be open minded at the same time. Can I ask why you dismissed Wikibooks without a second thought?

I don't dismiss Wikibooks per se. I just reject sources with have no references to any reliable data. Nothing more.

Originally Posted by Luciel

Also, where's the statistics, reports, and research that something that is hard cover literature versus online literature is better?

The key phrase here is peer review. Whenever scientific study is conducted the results are reported and verified by other scientists. The same goes to books and any kind of publications which are supposed to be scientific. You don't know what are qualifications of the guys behind this article in Wikibooks. If you read research report you are able to verify it. And again - in research report you make references to others sources, researches and observations.

I can write an article that LD causes deaths. And i know i am right! You can denied that i know i am right!
Can you see my point?

Originally Posted by Luciel

Has anyone even done a study on whether there ARE negative effects or not? How can we just claim "bull sh*t" if we don't have proof? Well, I don't at least. Do you?

Show me the proof that this article from Wikibooks is based on proofs!

Originally Posted by Luciel

PS: You're a qualified psychologist? I feel like you're gonna' say "there's somethin' wrong with this kid!" xD

There's sth wrong with everyone, LOL!

My lecturer over heard me talking to a friend about Lucid Dreaming. Of course my friend thought the subject was 'weird' and quickly got back to work.
My lecturer used to work in psychology and she often finds herself talking to her students as if they are patients. Well during this lesson she approached me about lucid dreaming and told me that I was doing it because I want to escape from reality.

I have actively been Lucid Dreaming for well over a year and a half. The only down side I have had is the inability to talk to my friends about it. Lucid dreaming is relatively unknown and most people assume I am making it up or something.

Although, thank god for Inception. Hopefully this will open up peoples minds.

Originally Posted by mrdeano

Although, thank god for Inception. Hopefully this will open up peoples minds.

I wish I had a bunch of guys hanging out in my dreams trying to help me achieve lucidity. That would be great.

Originally Posted by Tim_PL

The key phrase here is per review.

Show me the proof that this article from Wikibooks is based on proofs!

Actually its peer review.

There are many good, noble, and interesting ideas which are not based on proof. Although a bit alarmist, anyone reading the above wiki books statement can evaluate the truth in them for themselves. They are merely covering their bases.

I find most of it indeed to be B.S. for myself, but I am sure there are less stable types out there who I cannot vouch for....

Originally Posted by Tim_PL

Please, don't mix science and religion. It's one of the biggest mistakes. It doesn't bring anything to the discussion. Thank you

I gotta say, Religion and Science go together nicely...

Science can only prove things wrong/incorrect but religion can only prove things right... I Certainly it's an idea that shouldn't be dismissed

You want a Fact? here is a fkin fact. I had a friend who killed himself b/c of a lucid dream. dont tell people there is no fking risk you dick

Originally Posted by renegade13

You want a Fact? here is a fkin fact. I had a friend who killed himself b/c of a lucid dream. dont tell people there is no fking risk you dick

...what? How exactly did he kill himself from a lucid dream? Could you explain more, please? I have been lucid dreaming for a long time and nothing harmful has ever happened to me.

My opinion (as a qualified psychologist :] ) - a bunch of b***it

Show me the data, show me statistics, reports, research - then we can discuss
Sorry, but Wikibooks (especially without direct references to solid literature) is not a reliable source of information.
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Thats true but... Lucid dreaming hasn;t been fully discovered so these are just things that might happen.

Originally Posted by Lovelucid

Thats true but... Lucid dreaming hasn;t been fully discovered so these are just things that might happen.

From : A History of Sleep and Dreaming

We have to thank the eighth century Tibetan Buddhists for the discovery of lucid dreaming. They learned how to control dreams with Dream Yoga.

Lucid dreaming has been around for a LONG time. If there was anything like this, we'd know about it by now.

Please clarify your personal opinion because I gathered that you meant people with mental disorders cannot lucid dream. In my opinion, I think it is a lot easier to lucid dream with certain mental disorders (like ones that my psychologists are medicating me for: C-PTSD, anxiety, depression, and OCD). I feel that with anxiety, I am more aware of slight oddities. And I can say, with much personal certainty, that too much lucid dreaming can be a bad thing. I started at the age of 5-6ish because of an obsessively-controlling, abusive, and militaristic-like father. I can relate with exhaustion (each time I have an LD now, I wake up with a racy heart and have to take a Beta Blocker), alienation, inability to stop for many years, false awakenings and sleep paralysis, and most importantly dissociation. It's really f***ed up when I can remember the order and vividness of my dreams from my childhood but not many waking experiences. I feel that psychologists that haven't had several, if not hundreds, of lucid dreams just won't be able to fully understand the mystery. It really is the most addicting drug ever created.