Thread: A recurring DC in my dreams which doesn't behave like any other DC's

I am curious as to where the names "Haven" and "Riven" came from. For one thing, "Haven" was the name of a planet in Star Trek TNG that was sort of like a Shangri-la. In that particular episode, a guy was on board the Enterprise who was looking for a girl he had dreamed about since he was a little boy. He had drawn pictures of her, as you seem to have done. In the end, he found out she was real all along and had dreamed of him since she was a little girl.

Riven was the name of the Age featured in the sequel to Myst. I had Myst in mind after seeing the sketch of the "temple" in your dream, which looks a bit like the library in that particular world. Also, the girl reminded me of Catherine, who also wrote an Age at one time that contained luminescent flying creatures. Also it seems to me she had some dreaming capabilities. So it seemed coincindental when I read this that Haven was also known as Riven, which was Catherine's home world.

So I'm guessing that you are either a Trekkie and/or a Myst fan. Otherwise this is a pretty weird coincidence.

I've heard Haven before in many things but if he didn't get that from star trek than that is a weird coincidence.

Hyu, what you should probrobly do is build a wormhole generator in your room or something while in a lucid, that way whenever you're lucid, you can go to Terraluna without all that effort. or you could steal a stargate.

Originally Posted by cedward1

I am curious as to where the names "Haven" and "Riven" came from. For one thing, "Haven" was the name of a planet in Star Trek TNG that was sort of like a Shangri-la. In that particular episode, a guy was on board the Enterprise who was looking for a girl he had dreamed about since he was a little boy. He had drawn pictures of her, as you seem to have done. In the end, he found out she was real all along and had dreamed of him since she was a little girl.

Riven was the name of the Age featured in the sequel to Myst. I had Myst in mind after seeing the sketch of the "temple" in your dream, which looks a bit like the library in that particular world. Also, the girl reminded me of Catherine, who also wrote an Age at one time that contained luminescent flying creatures. Also it seems to me she had some dreaming capabilities. So it seemed coincindental when I read this that Haven was also known as Riven, which was Catherine's home world.

So I'm guessing that you are either a Trekkie and/or a Myst fan. Otherwise this is a pretty weird coincidence.

o_O
I have played the Myst series indeed, though it has been a very long time since I played the second one.
I did remember that Riven was the name of the first sequel, but I did not remember that there were any similarities in content, this is quite interesting.
As for TNG, yes, I have watched quite a few episodes when I was younger.
Again, this was so long ago that I do not remember any of the episode plots.

The only thing I could think off when I wrote down Haven in my DJ was the world from Firefly, which didn't seem related content wise.

Maybe these things inspired my dreams when I was younger, and I remembered a dream world I have created as a kid?
I have no idea... this is pretty cool though, thanks for pointing this out!

Update: How long have I known you? - A friendly fight with Yuya.

Very interesting, Hyu. This is really starting to freak me out a bit. I wish I could have interesting experiences like this. ENVY!

Originally Posted by Hyu

Update: How long have I known you? - A friendly fight with Yuya.

What an interesting response she gave when you asked how long you've known her. Wow!

so cool. your fight/practice with Yuya reminded me of Harry Potter and Dumbledore . I'm glad I've bookmarked this thread lol - lots of useful and inspirational information.
You could ask her if she's immortal considering what she said about you knowing each other before your birth. anyway, keep us updated

It's so crazy how your experiences parallel mine with Selene. The first time I realized she was real, she attacked me on the Moon, with every clack of our quarterstaffs saying, "I'M REAL, I'M REAL, I'M REAL!"

Amazing amazing amazing.

And, you were standing on water.

Next time, I suggest asking her for a drink of water, her being the goddess of water.

I completely forgot to ask her about being a goddess and about Selene.
I hope I'll remember to do so next time.

So much stuff has happened in the past week. WHY COULDN'T THIS HAVE HAPPENED WHEN I WASN'T GONE?!?!?!

Originally Posted by Hyu

I completely forgot to ask her about being a goddess and about Selene.

What does she have to do with Selene besides having a creepily similar tale?

Anyway, this is turning out to be an interesting tale. You rediscovering who Yuya is - AMAZING! Turning out to be much better than a spirit guide... that is, if I think she is what I think she is. Battle skills also being rediscovered... fuck yeah! Can't imagine what you would be like in full blown combat! Absolutely amazing!

My advice to the current situation: let things follow their natural course. This could to prove to be much bigger than what anybody originally thought it was! It reminds me a lot of WakingNomad... could you be the next one?

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Hyu

Update: How long have I known you? - A friendly fight with Yuya.

Interesting.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

What does she have to do with Selene besides having a creepily similar tale?

Those are the two character names I remember from childhood dreams, Yuya and Selene.
I cannot remember who Selene was though, but the name stuck in my head just like Yuya did.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

My advice to the current situation: let things follow their natural course.

That's what I plan to do

Something I just remembered: I may have a character of my own. I distinctly remember a character from one of my dreams named Rachel. My dream was a bit blurry, but I could see her quite clearly. Upon waking I thought she was an interesting character. For some reason I was also asking her to give me the ability to speak above a whisper. She refused to do it, but later I did get the ability to speak normally. A first for me.

Anyway, I'm going 50-50 on this. I plan to investigate further. Hopefully soon. It seems a bit important. Oh well. Let's see what happens.

I wonder, maybe it's something like Bleach(anime)?? If this really was a spirit of some sort then that would be awesome. Maybe you died in one world but was reborn in this world, if what she says is true.....

Im very new to concept of lucid dreaming and as of now have not experienced one but my guess is that, as other posts have stated, you see her as more than a normal DC there for she behaves more than a DC. I believe she might be your sub conscience but given a DC body. Although your conscience mind will not know things in a dream, she knows. This makes sense because your sub conscience creates the feelings, the smell and everything else in a dream, you just manipulate it. Her being your sub conscience explains why she knows your thoughts and why you have no desire to talk to her. You know everything there is to know about her she is a figment of your deeper thoughts. And finally you only meet her in lucid s because that is where your conscience mind and sub conscience mind interact the most.

Really? An almost-normal DC? Try learning your terms before you try to come to any solutions, even if they don't agree with the more outrageous theories.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

Really? An almost-normal DC? Try learning your terms before you try to come to any solutions, even if they don't agree with the more outrageous theories.

Come on Snowboy, cut him some slack, it was his first ever post to DV lol... Welcome to DV!!

Originally Posted by atkins513

Come on Snowboy, cut him some slack, it was his first ever post to DV lol... Welcome to DV!!

Oh. Didn't notice that. But still. He shouldn't jump to a conclusion so quickly.

I never know what I'm talking about, so feel free to ignore me, LOL, but:

I think the reason she isn't leaving, is because you don't want her to. Even if on the surface it might seem like you do, or are curious as to why she does not leave. You seem to have some kind of attachment to her, and deep down I think you acknowledge that, so I think that when she replies, saying she exists, she is doing what you want her to, subconsciously. I also think the reason you can't manipulate her is because really, you don't want to. You like her for what she is. "Want" and "necessity" are our greatest motivations.

Originally Posted by mcslurry

I never know what I'm talking about, so feel free to ignore me, LOL, but:

I think the reason she isn't leaving, is because you don't want her to. Even if on the surface it might seem like you do, or are curious as to why she does not leave. You seem to have some kind of attachment to her, and deep down I think you acknowledge that, so I think that when she replies, saying she exists, she is doing what you want her to, subconsciously. I also think the reason you can't manipulate her is because really, you don't want to. You like her for what she is. "Want" and "necessity" are our greatest motivations.

Exactly. i think it may be more than a DC (Manifestation of Sub-C) but i doubt most of what it says is true. how Hyu could have known ANYTHING before his existance is impossible without divine intervention. (God) This whole thing tore me apart last night. i could hardly sleep thinking of an explanation for this, therefore i am just going to stick to that opinion until i have more information.

Originally Posted by Wristblade56

...is impossible without divine intervention. (God) This whole thing tore me apart last night. i could hardly sleep thinking of an explanation for this...

Does there really need to be an explanation?
Many of the things mentioned in this thread are entirely possible, but there is no way to tell what's happening.
As I mentioned before: personally, I don't worry about it.

I feel bad that you say you're loosing sleep about reading this... seriously, don't worry about it.
Also keep in mind that in my DJ I write down the feelings I experience in my dreams, not how I feel afterwards.
I'm happy I have these dreams, but I don't really worry about what it means at all. (Well, not anymore, I admit, I did in the beginning, which is one reason why I made this topic)

Originally Posted by Wristblade56

Exactly. i think it may be more than a DC (Manifestation of Sub-C) but i doubt most of what it says is true. how Hyu could have known ANYTHING before his existance is impossible without divine intervention. (God) This whole thing tore me apart last night. i could hardly sleep thinking of an explanation for this, therefore i am just going to stick to that opinion until i have more information.

What has been said by Hyu himself (I'm assuming this is the OP) is not known by me, so I can't comment on that. I'd love to check, by my internet is extremely slow and it's morning so I won't be able to wind my way back through the thread to find out. Could you give me a brief explanation if possible? I'm a pretty level-headed person and I also like to think, so maybe I can come up with a plausible explanation?

Apparently I'm a "noob" though, so lol. Who really cares about what I think?

I suppose the most rational explanation is that Yuya is a figment of Hiyu's imagination. That having been said I do not find it impossible that she is something more. I have been kicking around a few ideas while reading this.

To me, the distinction between one sentient being and another here begins to grow a little vague. Why couldn't there be another conscious personality in existence in one's subconscious? What natural law would that violate? But then, what reason would we have for thinking that way as opposed to thinking of Yuya as simply another personality of the OP's which only manifests itself in the dreamworld?

I don't know. It's all very interesting. Personally I like the idea of Oneironauts discovering another intelligent race, but I'm afraid my theories to that end are mostly wishful thinking.

P.S. I know I spelled Hyu's name wrong, but I am using someone else's IPad, and haven't figured out how to go back to change it.