*What counts as natural and what doesn't?* |
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*What counts as natural and what doesn't?* |
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I'm just gonna throw out a little guess here... |
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So anyone with a habit of R.C.s is a natural? But many people have developed habits of doing R.C.s or they think about them nearly all day, but have yet to have at least one bloody lucid? |
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Well, it's not just the fact that they've made RCs a habit, but they're actually effective and it's habitual enough that they even do it within dreams. |
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Habitual enough meaning it's a habit. A really strong habit then? |
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That's all you have for me? |
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People don't completely agree on the meaning of the word "natural" in relation to lucid dreaming, and it doesn't have a totally solid definition. Someone who has lucid dreams often (even every night) without any conscious effort to do so would be considered a "natural" lucid dreamer. People who respond very well to lucid dreaming techniques (having lucid dreams regularly only weeks or days after starting) might also be considered "naturals", but in a different way than the first one. |
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Last edited by AscendedSleeper; 07-05-2011 at 09:57 PM.
I got my first lucid the night I joined DV. I think the term "natural" defines someone who may or may not know what lucid dreaming is, but they can have them without any help or without practicing techniques. |
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We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.
Vandermeer
SAT (Sporadic Awareness Technique) Guide
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For me natural is nothing more than a person who has discovered lucid dreaming without having practice or initial knowledge, just like Puffin said. Everything else is more or less an attempt to brag, at least in my eyes. I accept term natural to cover people whos mind easily accept lucid dreaming, though. That usually results more successes, hence you could say their mind is natural for dreaming. Dunno. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
So.... all I can and should do is wait and keep trying and hope for something to happen? |
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hmm.. well I start with the step by step guide. How good is your dream recall? Do you recall many dreams per night and do you remember details and can you form a timeline for them? If you don't, you have to first work on your dream recall so you don't forget dreams. Once your dream recall is good and your mind focuses more on the enviroment, your general awareness developes. In that way you will eventually develope your dream awareness and result in lucidity. It its all about training your mind, throught the day. You have to change your general awareness and eventually it will soak through your dreams and subconscious too. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
Well, are you trying too hard? Stress can lead to less (lucid) dreams. |
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I have a dream journal. It has over 3 months of pages in it, each night ranging from no dreams (about 4 nights) to 7 dreams. I have an average of 2-3 dreams recalled each night. |
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Hmm.. as TheAuthor said trying too much will usually hinder it. Remember that it is your mind your are teaching to think in a new way. You cannot essentially force it, you have to change it to look world differently. I'd say don't try consciously so hard. Try to train your subconscious because that is what you need in dreamstate. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
FUCK. |
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Techniques are just flavor and tools. Main thing is general awareness. New way to think. How I see it, it is all about how fast your brain accepts new way of thinking and awareness. Those who find it easier to accept gain results a lot faster. Usually the first time is hardest, but after that your confidence and skill begans to develop and everything is easier. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
People come on here saying how they have been trying for years without much success (there is no way it will take you THAT long if you are practicing with consistency and motivation). You are not alone in taking a long time to get results. Do you ever just visualize what a lucid dream is, or what you will do when you get one? Sometimes with all these techniques and practicing you can lose sight of the simple goal: you want to realize that you are dreaming in a dream. |
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I'm not swearing at you, I'm swear at exasperation. How would you feel if you kept trying something, and the one place you could go for help was a place filled with people willing to help, but also crammed with people who are needing help but don't actually need it because they are already successful but don't realize it?? |
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Your way of venting your frustration is rather anoying, but will give you some space because I understand your frustration. |
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So fly with me, Theres a whole sky to see, I am taking your mind with me, into Lucidity, flying in unity could be normality, what you perceive to be is your reality – Dub FX
I haven't had a lucid yet either but I dont mind I will keep trying |
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To be honest, your whining seems a bit more insufferable than theirs. No, I don't mean to offend, just pointing something out. |
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Origami, if you feel that you have no influence over what happens then what's the point? |
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Last edited by SilverBullet; 07-06-2011 at 02:09 AM.
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