people can also dream outside of rem, i know it wasn't a fa because i was dreaming the whole time, i shared vision of my dream and wake worlds simultaniously, albeit was hard to see like when u close ur eyes most the way and lights blur and everything is fuzzy. Anyways after a massive dry spell i got 3 ld's in a row and tried verbal forced within dream wakeing body control (needs a much better name possibly) and got little more than hillarious sounds. There was no time dialation it sounded like a deaf version of what i meant to say no quicker or slower.
This obviously takes practice or.. More thought, thanks for everyones patience, any ideas?