Inducing Sleep Paralysis?

**dhonglucid** · 02-29-2012 02:58 AM

I've been trying to lucid dream for 4 weeks now through the WILD method and only got it successfully once through sleep paralysis. But since then, I have not been in SP or had a LD. Is there anything I can to make SP occur more often? My friend told me to try to change up my sleeping pattern, but I can't because I have school.

**Sivason** · 02-29-2012 03:27 AM

The only trick I can tell you is that you must get your body to fall asleep before your mind does. Normally your mind goes out a little before the body. Normally you drift and float slowly into oblivian, then your body does its thing. So what you need to do is learn to relax deeply, but keep your mind engaged. If it is too engaged, like thinking about homework, your body will be to tense to sleep. One example of a trick for this, is to count your breaths. Do not let your brain get frustrated when you loose count or try to remember where you were at. Just start again at 1. There are other methods, and maybe someone will post more on your thread, but they mostly work on that idea.
Barely keep your mind awake, but still actually awake. Relax enough that the body just goes ahead and falls asleep. It is not easy at first as it is basically a meditation skill that must be developed. Hope that helps

**Chewnie91** · 02-29-2012 05:43 PM

WILD is my primary source of accessing lucid dreams at will. My best technique that I use while performing a WBTB to reach the WILD, I use play dreams (really just daydreams). In a way it is sort of like a MILD as you are visualizing yourself in the dream state and what you are doing. My reason being using anchors such as counting, thinking about one object and such (no offense to the above post as they are absolutely right on point with the breathe counting) they bore me and I have no desire to focus on it till I reach my goal. Actively playing along in a daydream, which if your tired comes about fairly quickly, is much more effective. As you daydream just "watch" it as you would a movie. Don't try to will it into a dream or anything just watch, and stay conscious during the process. I find that this keeps your mind off other thoughts (such as homework) and can actually induce the WILD. I have had many active day dreams that have turned into full scale lucid dreams. Any questions feel free to message me and i'll be more than happy to assist you on your journey.

**dhonglucid** · 02-29-2012 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by Chewnie91

WILD is my primary source of accessing lucid dreams at will. My best technique that I use while performing a WBTB to reach the WILD, I use play dreams (really just daydreams). In a way it is sort of like a MILD as you are visualizing yourself in the dream state and what you are doing. My reason being using anchors such as counting, thinking about one object and such (no offense to the above post as they are absolutely right on point with the breathe counting) they bore me and I have no desire to focus on it till I reach my goal. Actively playing along in a daydream, which if your tired comes about fairly quickly, is much more effective. As you daydream just "watch" it as you would a movie. Don't try to will it into a dream or anything just watch, and stay conscious during the process. I find that this keeps your mind off other thoughts (such as homework) and can actually induce the WILD. I have had many active day dreams that have turned into full scale lucid dreams. Any questions feel free to message me and i'll be more than happy to assist you on your journey.

Yeah, I tried do this until I read somewhere to keep your mind clear and focus on your breathing. I'll try doing this and see if it works.

**Sivason** · 02-29-2012 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by Chewnie91

WILD is my primary source of accessing lucid dreams at will. My best technique that I use while performing a WBTB to reach the WILD, I use play dreams (really just daydreams). In a way it is sort of like a MILD as you are visualizing yourself in the dream state and what you are doing. My reason being using anchors such as counting, thinking about one object and such (no offense to the above post as they are absolutely right on point with the breathe counting) they bore me and I have no desire to focus on it till I reach my goal. Actively playing along in a daydream, which if your tired comes about fairly quickly, is much more effective. As you daydream just "watch" it as you would a movie. Don't try to will it into a dream or anything just watch, and stay conscious during the process. I find that this keeps your mind off other thoughts (such as homework) and can actually induce the WILD. I have had many active day dreams that have turned into full scale lucid dreams. Any questions feel free to message me and i'll be more than happy to assist you on your journey.

I actually use the method you describe as soon as I start seeing colors or feeling strange. I count and such things, until I get half way out. Then I "daydream" about very very basic things. I keep it simple, as to not over stimulate. Often I just day dream about running my fingers through a girls hair. Something that encourages the dream portion of my brain, with out keeping my body from falling asleep.

**Chewnie91** · 03-01-2012 04:53 AM

Yes I find that the daydreaming works much better for me. The counting breathes no matter how hard I tried to focus on it always just bored me into unconsciousness. I agree with the simplicity theme, if you get too in depth it can in fact ruin the attempt all together. I use deep relaxation techniques to reach the "color and strange feeling phase" that your talking about which I call HI (Hypnotic Imagery) so I can bypass the counting and boring stuff

And dhonglucid, let me know how your progress goes with that. I'm trying to find more people that use this technique so I can possibly learn some new angles about it with whatever you find works for you after you tweak it to your liking.

**kevojy** · 03-01-2012 05:06 AM

I find that focusing on an image can help. I usually wait until I get to the 'swirly colour bit' and then I wait until some sort of scene pops into my head. It can be simple like a field, or complex like a village square. I then just really calmly try to focus on little details. Moving my attention around the scene. Not really trying to alter it but not stopping myself if I want to. Before long the picture is really vivid and my body is super relaxed. And then it can fail or succeed. The slightest disturbance can just send the whole thing off-kilter. Or I can keep my focus, and hopefully the scene starts to become more than a picture. It almost feels like your becoming part of it, but not really. Like watching a 3D movie as your meditating (lol - it's a hard feeling to describe). And you might just fall asleep and forget about it, or you might find yourself in the scene! Just remember to remind yourself that you're dreaming! Hope that helps a bit, I find it helps. I can only get to sleep paralysis without doing something like this if I'm already sleep deprived.. Which I prefer not to be

**Chewnie91** · 03-01-2012 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by kevojy

I find that focusing on an image can help. I usually wait until I get to the 'swirly colour bit' and then I wait until some sort of scene pops into my head. It can be simple like a field, or complex like a village square. I then just really calmly try to focus on little details. Moving my attention around the scene. Not really trying to alter it but not stopping myself if I want to. Before long the picture is really vivid and my body is super relaxed. And then it can fail or succeed. The slightest disturbance can just send the whole thing off-kilter. Or I can keep my focus, and hopefully the scene starts to become more than a picture. It almost feels like your becoming part of it, but not really. Like watching a 3D movie as your meditating (lol - it's a hard feeling to describe). And you might just fall asleep and forget about it, or you might find yourself in the scene! Just remember to remind yourself that you're dreaming! Hope that helps a bit, I find it helps. I can only get to sleep paralysis without doing something like this if I'm already sleep deprived.. Which I prefer not to be

Lol I know exactly what your talking about. I can't tell you the number of times I've messed it up at the scene part. Or even as scenes start appearing I get excited and focus way too much on them and they instantly disappear. Or I'll get more focused on it and start seeing details, but something disturbs me and the whole things shuts off in a split second and I'm back to square one. The moving into the picture is a very cool experience. It's amazing how we can actually move into these dream scenes if all of the settings are correct (its like something out of mario 64 lol, jumping into the picture frames to enter the level)

**dhonglucid** · 03-02-2012 12:53 AM

Really interesting. So I can skip the whole counting part and go right into this daydreaming/imaging stuff? And btw, how long do you usually stay up for after you wake up from your alarm or w.e. to WILD?

**Chewnie91** · 03-02-2012 02:07 AM

Well if you want to skip the counting and such, you must perform deep relaxation techniques. However, if you are performing a WBTB to induce a WILD, chances are you will most likely be already very relaxed and tired and easily slip into the HI (hypnotic imagery) phase where you can begin to daydream (so you can skip counting

) I normally sleep for about 6 hours and stay up for 10 minutes maximum. It varies from person to person but this is the time frame that works best for me.