• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Results 1 to 25 of 90
    Like Tree120Likes

    Thread: Is it ethical to hurt your DCs?

    Hybrid View

    1. #1
      high mileage oneironaut Achievements:
      Made lots of Friends on DV Stickie King Populated Wall Referrer Silver 10000 Hall Points Referrer Bronze Veteran First Class 5000 Hall Points
      Sageous's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2011
      LD Count
      40 + Yrs' Worth
      Gender
      Location
      Here & Now
      Posts
      5,031
      Likes
      7156
      ^^ And in that case it is a game you're just playing, Wolfwood; you're right.

      I think the general theme of this thread is not about killing in defense, or battling with evil attackers, or killing DC's by accident. No; it is about going out of your way to genuinely harm DC's just to harm them, especially if they pose no threat to your own DC self.

      So yes, if you've found yourself in a battle-ravaged dreamscape crowded with marauders out to get you, or perhaps Freddy Kruger has you in his sights, I can't see much argument against following your instincts and defend away (aside from changing the dream to something less violent, which is what I would do).

      But I don't think choosing a DC at random and intentionally harming it is quite the same thing as that, and doing so does seem an affront to the dreamer's natural ethics (ie, stone cold murder= bad for pretty much everyone).

      Here's one last thought: if the WakingNomads, Sivasons, and Shadowofwinds of this forum are correct, you might not be harming just another DC, but the avatar for an actual person; something to consider, I think!
      gab and Wolfwood like this.

    2. #2
      Deuteragonist Achievements:
      Made lots of Friends on DV Populated Wall 1000 Hall Points Referrer Bronze Veteran First Class
      Wolfwood's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2010
      LD Count
      >50, <150
      Gender
      Location
      Sussex
      Posts
      2,337
      Likes
      3341
      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      ^^ And in that case it is a game you're just playing, Wolfwood; you're right.

      I think the general theme of this thread is not about killing in defense, or battling with evil attackers, or killing DC's by accident. No; it is about going out of your way to genuinely harm DC's just to harm them, especially if they pose no threat to your own DC self.

      So yes, if you've found yourself in a battle-ravaged dreamscape crowded with marauders out to get you, or perhaps Freddy Kruger has you in his sights, I can't see much argument against following your instincts and defend away (aside from changing the dream to something less violent, which is what I would do).

      But I don't think choosing a DC at random and intentionally harming it is quite the same thing as that, and doing so does seem an affront to the dreamer's natural ethics (ie, stone cold murder= bad for pretty much everyone).

      Here's one last thought: if the WakingNomads, Sivasons, and Shadowofwinds of this forum are correct, you might not be harming just another DC, but the avatar for an actual person; something to consider, I think!
      Mmm, I think the issue is not destroying an innocent DC or erasing them from existence, which would be exceptionally bad in real life. In the dream, snapping your fingers and having an innocent DC drop to the floor dead is not the same as having that ability and doing it in real life...no; however, torturing and harming a DC over time in a realistic, visceral-like manner....all whilst the DC is responding in a very realistic way... that is quite disturbing.

      What I'm getting at is that this question isn't of a yes/no kind.... killing a DC for no reason is highly contingent upon how it's done. Even in real life, it is said that sniping someone from a distance is devoid of all the mental torture and anguish found in blasting someone's body to shreds with a shotgun. That is to say, we feel worse when we see another suffer over time and up close -- I don't think reshaping your dreamscape by 'deleting' DCs is anything to worry about; however, someone choosing to harm an innocent DC over time, in a horrific, up-close, visceral-like manner...making them suffer and cry in pain.... and then to gain pleasure/satisfaction from it.... I think this says a lot about the person's mental state.

      Though I'm not really answering the question from an ethical point, that is, whether it is right or wrong. I'm simply answering it from a personal/emotional standpoint (should we feel bad or good or nothing?)
      Last edited by Wolfwood; 07-07-2012 at 05:53 PM.
      Sageous, gab and Sivason like this.

      Who looks outside, dreams;
      who looks inside, awakes.

      - Carl Jung

    Similar Threads

    1. Practical/ethical value of metaphysics
      By kidjordan in forum Philosophy
      Replies: 10
      Last Post: 09-15-2011, 02:17 AM
    2. Transhumanist ethical relativism
      By kidjordan in forum Philosophy
      Replies: 12
      Last Post: 09-09-2011, 04:38 PM
    3. 'Ethical' stem cell crop boosted
      By Photolysis in forum Science & Mathematics
      Replies: 8
      Last Post: 12-31-2010, 12:20 AM
    4. is it ethical to have animals in circuses?
      By dragonoverlord in forum Extended Discussion
      Replies: 13
      Last Post: 03-23-2008, 02:32 PM

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •