Thanks for the answer Zoth.
I didn't mean I was going to stop training for Lucid Dreaming all together though, I think I'm making a bad job explaining what I'm asking though.

When I first started being able to Lucid on a nightly basis I was using WBTB, MILD and WILD, I was also RCing through the day and using Prospective Memory.
I'd wake myself up with WBTB completely and get my brain as active as I could before going back to sleep and when I tried to MILD I would either get Lucid from a MILD or more often keep conscious as I fell a sleep and have a WILD.

I had many great LDs from this and will go back to it if what's happening now starts to fail but using these techniques WBTB, MILD and WILD feels like forced ways into Lucidity.
You're not self aware enough to know the difference between the Waking state and the Dream state so with these techniques you can force your way in, either by keeping consciousness (WILD) or drumming it into your head as you fall to Sleep (MILD).

What I've been wondering is, can people get so accustomed to the Dream state, or become self aware enough through habitual questioning of their state, that they can just know they are Dreaming in the majority of the Dreams they have? Without the need for "forcing" it using WBTB, WILD and MILD?

I've read Tibetan Monks who practice Dream Yoga can be so self aware that they can know they are Dreaming in every REM cycle, but I don't know if that's a different thing all together, or if I've taken a step in that direction so wanted to see if any of the very regular LDs on this forum had gone from starting with these techniques above, to then getting that level of self awareness I'm talking about?
Because if some others have then I'll know there's a good chance this will continue for me, if not on the other hand, maybe I'm just on one hell of a hot streak and I'll have to go back to my previous way of getting Lucid when they start dropping off.

Hope that all makes sense.


Cheers Fogelbise,
Hows your LDing going mate?


Thanks Gab.
Yeah I think RCing is a big part of it, it's funny though as I rarely use RCs in any of my Lucid's, I just click on and know I'm Dreaming, if I do use them it will be just a quick check to make sure before I do something that could kill me if I'm really awake.
You're right, the main help they give is the constant questioning of reality itself more than actually needing to use them so I'll definitely keep doing them.