Thread: Who or what should we blame for the lack of lucidity ?

I have a long answer in the pipeline - just as a start to present - quite stunning - numbers.
5-10 % is an extremely conservative estimate - from MelSchaedlich`s paper:

Schredl and Erlacher (2011) reported that 51% of the par-
ticipants in a representative German population sample
(N=937) had a lucid dream at least once, while 20% were
frequent lucid dreamers with at least one lucid dream per
month (cf. Snyder & Gackenbach, 1988).

Link: Applications of lucid dreams: An online study | Schädlich | International Journal of Dream Research

There is a study with 80 % as well - among psychology students - who naturally are more interested than a representative sample.
Got to check - but I really think 5-10 % was the lowest percentage ever counted with strictest criteria somewhere - and that is why it got mentioned in the documentary.

That there is so much incidence and interest and research done in Germany - "hard" science and psychology both - speaks for a dreaming culture enabling this - and so do my experiences.

Once more - I have found 6 people who clearly remember, having noticed that they are dreaming and that they can do what they want* as children.
That is lucidity in my eyes - no discussion - I had it myself - there is a thread next door on childhood LDers - might link up later.
And again - I did not jump out of the kitchen window irl - I knew very well, what was a dream, and what not!!

*Some to a higher degree than others - but one said, he could control all other DCs like puppets and build up whole worlds.
He did not lie - he got going and going and was very excited and rapt to hear from me it has a name and can be taken up once more.

Here a perfect argument against it having to get newly wired by extensive learning: There are people, who get their first LD only after reading about it.
Just came across such a post - and have read it more often before.
I do not believe, they are lying - just having easy access to the in my view natural ability.

Another thing - these days - most everybody - esp. the working part - has a not optimal sleeping schedule - not enough mostly.
So there we have something playing against more people LDing, which is rather indisputable.

If it were fostered and promoted and recognized in the first place - and systematically in children - we would be at over 80 % practitioners - my hypothesis.