Thread: NREM reality checks

Originally Posted by Tihiti

Hi, I spend lots of time in NRem consciously awake, with my body asleep for hours at a time. I do WBTB at least three times a week. I wake up naturally after 5.5 to 6 hrs sleep after having a regular dream. I get up for a 20 minutes and read about LD or OBE. Then I view pictures for on my digital picture frame for 10 mins. These pictures are related to what I want to dream about. Then I lay perfectly still. After about 10 minutes my hands and feet are tingling, and I can't feel them (if that makes sense). Then at about 20 minutes my arms and legs are tingling and they feel like they're not there. After about 1/2 hour my hearing stops and I can't feel, or see anything. When my hearing stops, I know I'm in the void or Nrem. My vision is kind of a light grayish green. Nothing is there. It's very boring and I find myself thinking about various things to help pass the time. Images appear occasionally and they're related to what I'm thinking about. I even hear sounds intermittently. This is when I can relax further into the twilight zone and go into an LD. I find it very difficult not to go unconscious at those seconds just before the dream starts. If I can maintain my consciousness then I enter the dream lucid. When the LD ends, then I remain perfectly still and I remain in the void waiting for the next LD to start. I've had nights where I've had 6 consecutive LD's over 3 hours and kept consciously aware the entire time until my alarm goes off. This only works for me from WBTB at 6 hrs to about 9 hours. After that, I can't maintain Nrem state, and my LD's are usually DILDS. It's hit and miss. Earlier this week I entered NRem and stayed there from 4Pm to 6:30 Am with no dreams because I couldn't drop into the twilight zone (now that was beyond boring). I learnt how to be conscious in NRem by practicing meditation. I meditate once in the morning for 10 minutes, lunch for 45 minutes, then again in the evening for 10 minutes. Practicing meditation helps you enter the twilight zone without falling asleep. There's all types of cool experiences you can have while meditating which can be every bit as exciting as an LD (if not the same thing). I've recently discovered you can interact with dream figures by speaking and touch while in NRem (without any vision), and this happens in the twilight zone, but before the dream starts. You can stay there for a long time interacting. It seems to be a good place where you can interact with your dream figure in peace and quiet (there's no nasty dream figures there). This dream figure interaction during NRem has only happened a few times, but I think it can be mastered with practice. I feel this was made possible for me through practicing meditation (lots of it). Oh yes, if I start to go unconscious while in NRem, an imaginary bell goes off (ring, ring, ring) quite frequently which I'm short on words to explain, but it certainly helps to keep you consciously aware. So bring along your imaginary bell while in NRem.

That is great. Meditation is very helpful here as you say. I would say that what you describe is very classic nREM (one manifestation, there are many). This is very similar to what I experience, but I have learned to have some very cool interactive dreams in this state. I will offer you a tip.With tactile (touch) visualization you can use this phase to practice all sorts of things. You can spend tons of time changing your dream body into animals, then when in a normal LD you will be well practiced. You can also spend the time doing fun tactile things such as dancing or gymnastics.

Originally Posted by sivason

I will offer you a tip. With tactile (touch) visualization you can use this phase to practice all sorts of things. You can spend tons of time changing your dream body into animals, then when in a normal LD you will be well practiced. You can also spend the time doing fun tactile things such as dancing or gymnastics.

Tactile visualization sounds better than touch! I'll use that phrase instead. I'm going to experiment with your suggestions and see if I can start doing more while there!