Melatonin has no effect on me?

**StephL** · 01-01-2015 07:55 PM

Melatonin sure is interesting, to add something to the positive list:

Melatonin for Drug-Induced Metabolic Syndrome - NEJM Journal Watch

In an early study, melatonin seems to decrease the weight gain that occurs with atypical antipsychotics. [and mood-stabilizers]

New to me that it's antidepressive, but that's an extra bonus when taken with mood-stabilizers and antipsychotics like they are testing it.

**cooleymd** · 01-01-2015 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by StephL

New to me that it's antidepressive, but that's an extra bonus when taken with mood-stabilizers and antipsychotics like they are testing it.

it says the word antipsychotic not that it's an antidepressive
(says it lessens some side effects of people on atypical antipsychotic meds)

Inexperienced dreamers always wonder what would happen if they just stopped running from their monsters in dreams...

Perhaps its time for a real life experiment, we put you into a corridor with two psych patients at the end of it, one is depressed they keep screaming at you "I'm gonna kill myself, I'm gonna kill myself" as you watch them they seem to be sitting there doing pretty much nothing at all they don't even seem to have the will to get up. The other patient suffers from psychosis, they seem to be very busy fashioning some sort of weapon from whatever they can find, and then they begin to scream "I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna kill you". You have to decide which one to run from...

**StephL** · 01-01-2015 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by cooleymd

it says the word antipsychotic not that it's an antidepressive
(says it lessens some side effects of people on atypical antipsychotic meds)

You said it would be antidepressive, not the article of course:

The lack of toxicity is true, but it does have side effects, even now I notice less sadness, usually it makes me sad and on the way to work I cry a bit. It is known to act as a depressant. But a bit of crying and insomnia is all I notice.

Or was that about another substance? If so - soz.

Inexperienced dreamers always wonder what would happen if they just stopped running from their monsters in dreams...

Perhaps its time for a real life experiment, we put you into a corridor with two psych patients at the end of it, one is depressed they keep screaming at you "I'm gonna kill myself, I'm gonna kill myself" as you watch them they seem to be sitting there doing pretty much nothing at all they don't even seem to have the will to get up. The other patient suffers from psychosis, they seem to be very busy fashioning some sort of weapon from whatever they can find, and then they begin to scream "I'm gonna kill you, I'm gonna kill you". You have to decide which one to run from...

WTF?

**cooleymd** · 01-01-2015 09:47 PM

I had stopped taking the melatonin to see what effect it would have on vividness
I took 0mg of the stuff for 2 days (but continued with 5HTP 100mg then 200mg)
taking approx 60mg of B6 on the second night to better remember the dreams
to see if they really were less vivid

They did seem a bit less vivid to me, (Melatonin makes them more vivid, but after taking huge dose I do notice depressive effects)

Funny part is that when I woke up for the last time on the second day, it was from a dream where there were 3 other people in the room all sorting out white pills based on their supposed side effects.

Was just seeing if you could tell the difference between psychosis and depression, Some patients in that study had bipolar so maybe its more a matter of knowing when to run...

I ended up taking 110mg of melatonin since first waking last night. Lots of dreams but none lucid. In any case I have clearly staved off any y2k15 zombie apocalypse, we won't know for another 3 weeks if I've staved off Ebola have to wait out the incubation period...