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      Techniques without WBTB

      Hi, everyone!

      So, I need help. I need to find a technique that's relatively easy for beginners (stuff like ADA is too hard for me), and also one that doesn't involve WBTB (I'm unable to do it for several reasons, mostly personal ones). I can do techniques that involve taking a nap, but please consider it's hard for me to do so. I also have no problem with reality checks or establishing a dream journal. Thanks in advance!

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      I think the best thing you can do is lots of quality reality checking through the day along with a dream journal. Take note of all the dreams you can recall upon waking in the morning and get a good list of recurring dream signs together. These will help with reality checking and spotting when you are actually dreaming. Autosuggestion, intent setting and mantras before bed should help as well.

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      Work on building up dream recall so you can remember multiple things vividly. Many times a day stop and think about how you can tell that you are awake now and not dreaming. Run through it in your mind. Do you remember how you got there, can you read, are things staying the same when you look away and then back. That sort of stuff.
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      DafodilSum, you might need to come to terms with a core truth of LD'ing: Learning to successfully, consistently be self-aware (lucid) in your dream takes work; time and effort must be spent.

      There are no "easier" techniques that bring about lucidity in the same manner that the hard or inconvenient ones do. If this were the case, then we'd all be doing those easy techniques and the harder ones would have long ago been left behind and forgotten. The best things in life are often difficult to obtain, and lucid dreaming is one of those best things.

      That said, and if you're still reading, techniques like MILD, Reality Checks, journaling, setting intention, and WBTB might look complicated and difficult at first glance, but in reality they are pretty simple -- they just need some practice, and your willingness to invest some time and effort. I don't know what your issues are with WBTB, but it is literally no more complex, or difficult, than getting up after several hours' sleep, hanging out for a few minutes, and going back to bed; your personal reasons might make this impossible, I understand, but I thought I would mention this in case you picked up some bad information about WBTB elsewhere (God knows there's plenty of it about!). Oh, and for what it's worth, my personal recommendation is that you don't bother with ADA, because it might not be worth the effort.

      Finally, being me, I must also mention that lucidity is less about the techniques than it is about mindset. More important than techniques, in my eyes, is learning, understanding, and making a part of your life the fundamentals of LD'ing: self-awareness, memory, and expectation/intention. Do that, and the techniques might be much easier to practice, or possibly not necessary at all. Of course, doing this takes time and effort as well!

      If you really want to LD, then I highly recommend you try to make the decision to put in the time and effort needed to find and learn the techniques that work for you. There really are no shortcuts.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
      DafodilSum, you might need to come to terms with a core truth of LD'ing: Learning to successfully, consistently be self-aware (lucid) in your dream takes work; time and effort must be spent.

      There are no "easier" techniques that bring about lucidity in the same manner that the hard or inconvenient ones do. If this were the case, then we'd all be doing those easy techniques and the harder ones would have long ago been left behind and forgotten. The best things in life are often difficult to obtain, and lucid dreaming is one of those best things.

      That said, and if you're still reading, techniques like MILD, Reality Checks, journaling, setting intention, and WBTB might look complicated and difficult at first glance, but in reality they are pretty simple -- they just need some practice, and your willingness to invest some time and effort. I don't know what your issues are with WBTB, but it is literally no more complex, or difficult, than getting up after several hours' sleep, hanging out for a few minutes, and going back to bed; your personal reasons might make this impossible, I understand, but I thought I would mention this in case you picked up some bad information about WBTB elsewhere (God knows there's plenty of it about!). Oh, and for what it's worth, my personal recommendation is that you don't bother with ADA, because it might not be worth the effort.

      Finally, being me, I must also mention that lucidity is less about the techniques than it is about mindset. More important than techniques, in my eyes, is learning, understanding, and making a part of your life the fundamentals of LD'ing: self-awareness, memory, and expectation/intention. Do that, and the techniques might be much easier to practice, or possibly not necessary at all. Of course, doing this takes time and effort as well!

      If you really want to LD, then I highly recommend you try to make the decision to put in the time and effort needed to find and learn the techniques that work for you. There really are no shortcuts.
      Thank you for saying what I wanted to say. And you said it perfectly.
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