Thread: How to awaken during sleep for obe4u method / what to do mentally while awake

Originally Posted by Eonnn

Step 2 looks to be the wake back to bed (WBTB) method.

This is where you intentionally wake up earlier than usual, about 4-6 hours after sleeping normally, you get out of bed and walk around do something for 30 minutes, then try going back to sleep. When you are trying to go back to sleep, you also try to visualize the dream you want to create or just simply set the intention "I'm going to have a lucid dream now" or "I will have a lucid dream straight after I fall asleep". Setting an intention is a skill in itself, not as simple as just thinking it or saying it in your head. You have to put meaning and willpower into, similar to when we are trying to remember something, we create a memory in our brain to be recalled later and intention works in a similar way, creating a mental hook like etching it into your mind. The stronger the intention, the better it will work.

I'd suggest reading the techniques here on this forum first, they are more detailed and easier to understand and follow. The technique you are trying is somewhat similar to the WILD technique, which is fairly advanced and difficult especially for a first technique to try and use. 3rd step on that link you gave seems to be relying on sleep paralysis, which can be quite a random and fleeting thing to happen and not a guarantee upon abrupt awakening. It doesn't mention sleep paralysis, and might be possible to do what they suggest without sleep paralysis but is definitely easier to accomplish whilst in sleep paralysis.

The easiest and maybe one of the best techniques for lucid dreaming is DILD, using reality checks so it transfers into dreaming after becoming an ingrained habit in waking life. But I assume your aim here is to have OBE's instead of lucid dreams? either way, it's a good idea to practice both lucid dreaming and astral projection, and a good idea to become familiar with lucid dreaming before trying astral projection. Good luck, hope this helps.

Could you go into more detail of how to set an intention mentally? Also can you to into detail of making the intention work in the form of awakening multiple times during sleep? This is to Eonnn.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by luffy28

Could you go into more detail of how to set an intention mentally? Also can you to into detail of making the intention work in the form of awakening multiple times during sleep? This is to Eonnn.

Thanks.

Just read up on it if you can and try to study and analyze the own process you initiate within yourself whenever you make an intention.
I was trying to understand it myself, and also understand how memory works years ago and had to become aware of my thoughts and the internal process that takes place.

I only read a little about it, most of the learning came from self-education internally working it out. Purposefully try to remember something or intend something and then just be aware of what happens when you do this.
Like I said before, with memory we create a sort of "mental hook" which we latch onto later when something needs to be recalled. It's similar in a way with intention, it's like you're etching it into your mind or into reality somehow similar to a mental hook.
The stronger the mental hook or deeper the etching, the better it works. Intentionally planning to wake up naturally at a certain time is then easier once you understand it internally, create the intention before sleeping to wake up at 4am, and 9 times out of 10 you will.

Good luck.