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    1. #101
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      I won't purposefully kill people. It just doesn't feel right; just because I'm given power to do what I want, and that dream characters aren't "real", doesn't mean it makes my actions right. I have hurt DCs before in fights, but they're bad guys that I purposefully summoned. They usually disappear afterwards too, so I don't see the (sometimes gruesome) aftermath.
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      Well. In lucid dreams, I don't want to harm anything of course, but I won't judge anyone who does.


      However, more alarming is that I'm pretty psychopath in normal dreams. o.o

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      There is no ethical problem in harming anything in a dream, since it's all just your thoughts and you aren't really harming anything (not even yourself).
      But if you go around in your dreams murdering everyone you see, have positive feelings about it and don't mean it as just some harmless comedy (It could be funny if you're in a dream and you're on a building and you push someone off it), then it could mean that you have some dark feelings and you should probably talk to a psychologist/psychiatrist.

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      Well no.
      It's a dream. So do what you want , nobodys going to judge you unless you dont tell them that you raped toilet with breasts, masturbated on the bus driver in the bus to nirvana, or put your head inside a giant minotaurs a-Hole, just to name a few, of course.

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      The whole purpose of lucid dreaming, in my opinion, is to be unrestricted. It's your world and your imagination so I think it's justified to do as you wish in dreams.
      What you do in your dreams, however, moral or not, will directly relate to your ethics in waking life. Because whatever you do in your dreams is in a way actually happening and is seen by the unseen eye... you.
      "Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life?" - Havelock Ellis

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      Quote Originally Posted by divinemission View Post
      The whole purpose of lucid dreaming, in my opinion, is to be unrestricted. It's your world and your imagination so I think it's justified to do as you wish in dreams.
      What you do in your dreams, however, moral or not, will directly relate to your ethics in waking life. Because whatever you do in your dreams is in a way actually happening and is seen by the unseen eye... you.
      That goes back to the age-old question... Just because someone doesn't see you pick up that bill that fell from their pocket, or your spouse doesn't see you abusing your brother, does that make it any better? Is morality negated by whether someone sees you doing it or not?
      We all live in a kind of continuous dream. When we wake, it is because something,
      some event, some pinprick even, disturbs the edges of what we have taken as reality.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post
      That goes back to the age-old question... Just because someone doesn't see you pick up that bill that fell from their pocket, or your spouse doesn't see you abusing your brother, does that make it any better? Is morality negated by whether someone sees you doing it or not?
      Obviously not, because you're harming another beings survival by doing those things. It's also immoral to not tell someone something you know they should know, like that they dropped money or their car is rigged with explosives. Same with not doing something that you know should be done.

      Basically anything that is in your power to do or not do that causes more harm than good should be considered immoral. The only person a dream effects is you. So if you don't like to do something then you don't have do it. If you think it's ok to do anything in a dream go right ahead, it's your own personal playground.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post
      That goes back to the age-old question... Just because someone doesn't see you pick up that bill that fell from their pocket, or your spouse doesn't see you abusing your brother, does that make it any better? Is morality negated by whether someone sees you doing it or not?
      More comparable would be not letting someone know their tie is slightly crooked. Nobody is harmed whether you tell them or not.

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      No.

      Your world, do whatever you want. Cause the worst death and destruction imaginable if you want, it'll all be wiped clean when you wake up.
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      For me it's all in the thought that goes into the action. If in the dream one is killing people and enjoying their suffering I don't think that's a good thing. If someone grabs a DC and rapes them I don't think that's a good thing. I do think in a way it's like a video game - as long as the dreamer never loses sight of what's reality and what's dreaming, it's not hurting anybody.

      In any case I think many dreamers would feel a lot of grief if they did feel guilty over every immoral thing, little or big, they did in a dream, because it happens at some point whether or not you want it to. I've found myself stealing things in non-lucids because I made reasons why it was okay. XD;;

      Anyway, just my two-cents worth.


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      it is a victimless crime, you can do whatever you want in a dream. look at it this way, in the dream, what is the difference between rape and sex with a dc? just your expectation of if they will resist or not. in real life rape can damage a person, but in a dream it is a reaction you expect and nothing more. the dc's are part of you and dont have their own emotions or feelings, you can't hurt them, even killing them is just making an image dissappear.
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      I pinch myself a few times to make SURE im dreaming before i do anything really out there. But to answer, no, it is not morally or ethically wrong imo.

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