Thread: Anybody else sometimes think of dream characters as "real" while lucid?

I'm sure this has been in a thread before, and I know it is pointless, but I find this an interesting topic to discuss. My question is the title:

Anybody else sometimes think of dream characters as "real" while lucid?

Yes, I know that when we aren't lucid, we accept dream characters as real people. The key here is that you accept dream characters as real people even while knowing you are dreaming. For example, my mom calls me to do something in a dream. I know I am dreaming and do not need to do the task. However, I think of my mom as a real person; not an imaginary person yelling at me to do something.

Or, in a fairly new lucid dream my aunt told me lucid dreaming was dangerous. I knew I was dreaming, but completely accepted her as my aunt. Later I was listening to music, curious with what my mind could come up with. I saw my little brother and called him over because I really wanted him to hear it.

As a final example, I dreamt a kid gave me money. I knew I was dreaming, but believed the money was absolutely real, given to me from a real person, and that I'd find $2 on my lap when I awoke.

So, anyone else have instances like this? I find "dream logic" like this very interesting while lucid. While this thread is up, I don't mind if you also talk about dream logic while lucid.

I most commonly have fake dream memories while lucid. I'll sudenly remember a character I've never met, or a place I've never been! It's disappointing when I wake up from these instances, because it's a sure sign that I wasn't fully aware...

I think there are different types of awareness in a dream. Sometimes, the only thing we consider is the fact "I am dreaming." In a good lucid dream, we branch out from this concept into an entire thought web of awareness (I am dreaming, so none of this is real, and I can alter anything, and none of what happens here really matters, etc.). I bet there are physiological factors involved in blocking these expanded realizations.

I guess how lucid you are depends on how strongly and consistently you specify lucidity. To see all the rules of the dream world while asleep, you must vigilantly consider them while awake.

Originally Posted by Abra

Sometimes, the only thing we consider is the fact "I am dreaming."

This is very true. I've had quite a few of those where I wasn't even lucid. I just figured that things worked the way they did because "I'm dreaming of course." I actually do usually manage to get that nothing matters or is real, except for people. As I've said, I sometimes never think that they don't exist either.

Well... I never consider them real "people" since I screw that term... but consider them as real "life" other than that my multiple personalities that live within my dreams are real lol

As a writer, they're just as real to me as any other characters that pop outta my head...

The other night i was in a lucid dream, and in it i was talking to my best friend james, and i was trying to figure out if he was really james, or if he was just a figment of my mind. i was very convinced that it was actually him, and that somehow we as people were connected cause we were both asleep. I asked him what his favorite video-game was, to try to see if he was real. He said "quake 2" and that convinced me that he was real, since i wasn't sure what his favorite video game really was, and we had never played quake 2 together so i couldn't have come up with it myself. So basically i duped myself in the dream, although i now know that quake 2 isn't his favorite game, thus proving him a figment of my imagination haha

Ok, here goes a little rant and rage about DCs...

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK THEY CAN ABUSE THE HELL OUT OF DCs?! I don't get this attitude about thinking DCs are available for whatever treatment we want to dish out because they aren't real people. I'm perfectly happy with accepting that some people want to behave and act out evil things, that's totally cool with me because it's intentional. However the misconception that DCs are just dream robots is insane. Anyway, this brings up the point of what is reality and what isn't.

The dreaming plane, is this real? Some people seem to think it is. So why would some of these people think DCs aren't real? What is real? How are we defining what is or isn't real, anywhere? Some people think if you 'will' DCs away, and they vanish, they are not real because they're just a part of the scenery. Then the faulty logic goes 'well the ones that remain are real'. Are you sure? Maybe the ones which vanish are just not very aware... they may infact not be aware of anything, but to think the entire population of DCs are mindless drones seems a tad simple. Maybe I just live in a complicated world but before we all became lucid dreamers, could we have been what others perceive as a mindless drone?

I admit, part of my perspective on this is that some of the DCs I've come across show varying degrees of intelligence. I would hate to think I randomly attacked a DC just because I could. I mean, mindless fun is great but hell, I wonder how many thoughtless lucid dreamers have given me a nightmare just because they thought I was a mindless DC built just for their entertainment.

Again, I have nothing against deliberately attacking others, it's just rude when you do it to DCs who have no clue what's going on. Pick on someone who's more of a challenge and leave the poor drones alone. Lol. Picking on DCs is like picking on mentally challenged kids, it's just not cool.

When I became lucid last night I was in the kitchen with my Dad, I yelled at him for not telling me I was dreaming, I was lucid but I had no idea he was just a dream character.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

When I became lucid last night I was in the kitchen with my Dad, I yelled at him for not telling me I was dreaming, I was lucid but I had no idea he was just a dream character.

uhm. wow. imagine this, awesome idea: train your DCs to tell you you are dreaming, would take a while but it could work

Originally Posted by Theepicdreamer

uhm. wow. imagine this, awesome idea: train your DCs to tell you you are dreaming, would take a while but it could work

Awesome idea man. I'll try this out in my next lucid!

I often catch myself thinking "oh no, that would make people think I'm weird..." in a lucid dream. I think that we're just to used to the fact that everyone around us that seem real, IS real... I have to test that DC training idea, genius!