Thread: Lucid Dreaming is a sleep disorder.

http://www.popsci.com/node/23916

Well, it depends on how you look at it. It could be called a sleep disorder, but I don't like to think of myself as brain damaged.

I like the graphic they came up with. Flying pigs?

This makes me mad......

FTA:

"Lucid dreamers’ brains stay conscious during REM sleep, allowing them to control their dreams’ content. Recent electroencephalogram evidence points to heightened activity in the region of the brain that processes self-awareness."

Anyone know what region of the brain processes self awareness, and where the results of this evidence they cite can be found?

and yet another one of these heart punishing threads...........

Originally Posted by Captain Sleepalot

Anyone know what region of the brain processes self awareness,

They're probably talking about the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (at least partially).

and where the results of this evidence they cite can be found?

See this thread and have a look at the article it links to.

Guys, they definitely are not referring to most of us lucid dreamers. People who lucid dream naturally probably classify into this "sleep disorder" (which I'm sure isn't really all that bad of a sleep disorder), but those who induce lucid dreams through means such as WILD'ing and reality checking definitely do not fall under that classification.

Think about it. Anybody can recognize that he/she is dreaming if they work hard enough to be able to achieve this feat during sleep. And, by definition, you are in a lucid dream the moment you realize you are dreaming. So, I'm sure everybody has that potential to DILD, since there is nothing wrong with a person to be able to recognize occasionally that he/she is dreaming. It's only those who lucid dream naturally, all the time, without effort, who may have this so-called "sleep disorder" of lucid dreaming...but I think we can all understand that calling it a "disorder" is quite misleading.

Haha, well, I'd hardly classify "Sleep Paralysis" as a disorder, considering everyone goes through it every night. You might as well call sleep a disorder, at that point. Don't take the article too seriously, it looks like the author didn't really know the meaning of "disorder".

I like the pictures though...

Originally Posted by Hiro

Haha, well, I'd hardly classify "Sleep Paralysis" as a disorder, considering everyone goes through it every night.

Sleep paralysis is a disorder (a parasomnia). The suppression of muscle activity that occurs in REM sleep is called sleep atonia.

Originally Posted by Hiro

Haha, well, I'd hardly classify "Sleep Paralysis" as a disorder, considering everyone goes through it every night. You might as well call sleep a disorder, at that point. Don't take the article too seriously, it looks like the author didn't really know the meaning of "disorder".

I like the pictures though...

Imagine your enjoying your lucidity quite in-depthly. Upon awakening you notice someone rifling through your belongings. They find what they like, and leave abrubtly. Since you couldn't move to do anything for a short period of time(however long). Would you or would you not call this a problem?

Just disinformation, which I can see, ties in nicely with my post: "Is Lucid Dreaming a way to Break Out of the Matrix."

Also might fit in nicely with the following:

The methods of creating a reality for small groups of people were done thousands of years ago by rearing children in what we would call today a "laboratory," and giving them a whole new reality with different gods and all the rest of it; and sure enough, just like Plato's Cave, they'd grow up trying to fit everything into that reality that they'd experienced from then on. It must fit in to that reality, stuffed in, even though it doesn't really want to go, they'll stuff it in. That's how the big sciences work, because if you can control small groups of people, when you standardize everything, education, information, across the world, you can do it with a whole global population eventually.

These agendas were made a long time ago. I keep telling you about the long-term business planning that goes in to running the world. Remember that his descendant Charles Galton Darwin wrote the book called "The Next Million Years". The next million – what a boast, that's quite the target to set, the next million years, quite an ambition. They mean business, these guys, these inbred "yaf" (yaf is a good old Scottish word), these inbred "yafs" that have these specific genes they love to pass on to each other that guarantees the psychopathic offspring. They own the world supply of money, they own the systems of the world, they own the mineral rights of the world, and they truly do believe they own us too. By legalities and birth certificates and obligations that you sign, they do own you. They're very, very legalistic and we always fail to see it.

Hahahahahahhahaha no.

Originally Posted by Thor

They're probably talking about the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (at least partially).

Superior Frontal Cortex. On the left side of the brain just northwest of the "third eye".

Lol, they're just jealous they can't fly or shoot laser beams.

If it's a disorder, I dont want to be healed.

Yes, my lucidity is from a disorder "narcolepsey". At least 3/4 of my dreams nightly are lucid 98 percent are recalled. Would not cure it for anything. Doing it for 24 years. Still being chased,blowing things up, and opening doors. REM tapped in about 3 to 4 minutes. So there is dreaming in REM! Effects on sanity is another topic.

...Whoever wrote that doesn't know what their talking about. On the Internet, anyone with pretty pictures can play "expert"

Originally Posted by erik212

http://www.popsci.com/node/23916

I saw that in the PopSci I got a few weeks ago. I think that in that article (which was more of a blurb, not really an article) they are referring to people who get LDs every night. I think this explains why some people are naturals at it. That is, the part of their brain responsible for self-awareness is unusually active during sleep. It may not be as active as those every-nighters, but maybe more active than average. I'm convinced that mine is definitely below average. Side note injection of depression: people who first start out learning about LDing often report having an LD because of thinking about the cool new world open to them while sleeping. I knew about LDs before getting serious about it and actually trying. So it didn't happen for me. yea.

I've not read that article yet but all I'm going to say is that lucid dreaming is one medical disorder I'd be happy to live with.

@ CrisAnn it doesn't affects your sleep cycles, also, LDing isn't less restful than normal sleep, if you want, I can put you in contact with a natural LDer who knows better about this, she could help you with this.

Thanks hun! I would like that very much. I have been reading more of the site. I had no idea so many people have to work at LD. I like my Lds. Other then my children and I, I do not know of anyone else that has LDs almost everynight. Its facinating to read about others experiences. I just never knew so many people found it just as facinationg, if not more then I. It will be nice to have the reasurence, that something that is so much a part of me, is not hurting me.

Thanks everyone for your replies and I will read that link asap!

if lucid dreaming is a disorder then you could consider me mentally retarded lol i enjoy going full retard every night

LMAO! I do not mind the dreaming, its the waking up that is such a pain in the butt.

My dad has lucid dreams every single night, too I have to work a bit harder at mine, but yep, there are definitely some of us out there who don't realize we're dreaming when we see pink elephants walking down the street

I'll bet you HAVE had some non-lucid dreams in your life though... but I'm willing to bet the reason you don't recognize them, is they are soooo close to real life, right?