Thread: lucid dreaming.... i duno man..

Well first of all i have done quite a bit of reading on lucid dreaming and read you can do a lot of things lucid dreaming such as healing and all, fun, sex, uhm other stuff. so my question is can you get bored of lucid dreaming ?
like i read this article once that said the guy got so bored of lucid dreaming he stopped doing it. oh ya and btw i have never lucid dreamt before and have been trying ultra super mega hard to lucid dream from all the stuff i heard.
so i was wondering if you do something in your lucid dream do you become as good at it in reality. like basketball i really really wanna get better at basketball and what if i just like shoot around in my dreams will i get better at shooting in reality? and can i play a game with like my dream characters but no exactly control them fully, because if i will be able to control them i wont get better. like can i be like i wanna face ricky(the best baller i know) in his real skill and both of us will play a one on one game will i get better ?
if that can happen how can someone get bored of lucid dreaming
I mean i would just shoot around in my dreams if theres nothing else to do.
oh ya and can you slow down time in lucid dreams ? or like fastforward and rewind it. and can you make all the dc act like they would in normal life and like you know basically live life buh experiment with what will happen.

and another thing abt lucid dreaming is .. how come its not popular? i mean its virtual reality for free .why dont people know abt it .


lately i have been getting really discouraged because i have never been able to lucid dream and i want to soo DAMN badly like seriously man i wanna do so many things i cant tell you guys. i wish i was a 'natural' possibilities would be endless... i tried so many wilds,mild couple of times, do reality checks all the time. im gona try wbtb tonight .. sometimes i just think of giving up...
i just see what you people have to say

Bored rofl i dont think u can get bored just something extra to do in the night. there are so many different things that can happen when ure lucid i dont think i will get bored do u do lots of RC'S inrl? u just gotta keep tryin

thanx for replying .. i wonder if anyone could answer my wierd questions..

first of all, you can do anything in a lucid dream.

you will become lucid one day, just keep at it.

do you ever use autosuggestion?

yea like the next time im dreaming i will recognise im dreaming
I said this like 20 times before i went to sleep.

so i was wondering will i get better at basketball if i lucid dream about it?

I doubt that you will get better. I would say that since your mind is controlling everything in your dream you could shoot from halfway around the world and still swish it...in other words you could "get better" in your dream but it could just be your mind playing tricks on you. I would suggest just practicing in real life. I'm not trying to say that Bball in LD wouldn't be fun, because I like playing soccer in dreams, but just that you probably won't get any better.

Originally Posted by gaarav gosal

so i was wondering will i get better at basketball if i lucid dream about it?

Pick up a copy of Stephen LaBerg's Exploring the World of Lucid Dreams. In it he theorizes (and I think he claims that it is backed by research) that you can get better at physical activities if you practice them in LDs. His reasoning is like this: when we dream our mind thinks that it's real and it sends neurological impulses to the muscles, but our body is paralyzed by a hormone, so our muscles don't move. Thus, you can improve your "muscle memory" by practicing in LDs.

He's the Authority when it comes to LDing, so I'll take his word for it--though I'm not good enough at LDing yet to actually test any of the more advanced stuff out.

Also, if someone on here got better at drawing by practicing in lucid dreams, then this would suggest that we can also hone our cognitive-spacial-perceptual abilities (like seeing or imagining the shapes in a 3D figure and translating them to 2D, or lining up a shot in basketball).

The only way to know for sure is to get good at LDing and see if it works for you. If it doesn't, well then you can just have fun every night instead.

Originally Posted by gaarav gosal

so i was wondering will i get better at basketball if i lucid dream about it?

Yes. You can train motion sequences in your mind and automatically become better at executing them with your body. Don't expect your muscles to grow or your consitution getting better that way though.

when i do it, i keep saying it aloud untill i fall asleep. i havent been able to do it recently because it requires a lot of concentration, which i dont have right now.

so what you should do is, keep saying it with a lot of focus till you fall asleep, dont let your mind wander.

If you have a good imagination, It's impossible to get bored.

I don't see how you could get bored by lucid dreaming. I mean you have to live everyday of your life more often than not repeating the same mundane schedule over and over. In a dream you can do whatever you want with no limitations. To me dreams are an alternate existence one where you can do anything you can imagine.

The only way I would get bored of lucid dreaming is if my actual life became a lucid dream. At least then I would have complete control instead of the hit and miss of dreams.

Originally Posted by gaarav gosal

so my question is can you get bored of lucid dreaming ?
like i read this article once that said the guy got so bored of lucid dreaming he stopped doing it.

Anyone who says that is lying. They bring up that notion, but never include any detail that suggests they know the slightest thing about lucid dreaming. Not to mention the level of control needed for that type of scenario is damn near impossible. Even the best lucid dreamers fail quite frequently at things they attempt.

Lucid Dreaming is full of endless possibilities. Plus, you most likely wont have them every night... So just try it out and have fun!

There is data to back it up. You can improve your game by lucid dreaming it!

That being said, I hope it works the same way for Calculus...

Anyway, it's like any other hobby. Does a tennis player ever get bored of tennis? I doubt he'll ever get bored, but that might be his excuse when his game goes lame (when he becomes too old to play well, and becomes insecure about his abilities).

Originally Posted by The Cusp

Anyone who says that is lying. They bring up that notion, but never include any detail that suggests they know the slightest thing about lucid dreaming. Not to mention the level of control needed for that type of scenario is damn near impossible. Even the best lucid dreamers fail quite frequently at things they attempt.

That's so true. Even the experienced among the lucid community don't always succeed in what they attempt. I know that I fail quite frequently before I finally achieve what I initially set out to do. That's what's always fun about lucid dreaming. They are all different and sometimes things don't work out and sometimes they do. We live for the moments that they do.

Originally Posted by gaarav gosal

Well first of all i have done quite a bit of reading on lucid dreaming and read you can do a lot of things lucid dreaming such as healing and all, fun, sex, uhm other stuff. so my question is can you get bored of lucid dreaming ?
like i read this article once that said the guy got so bored of lucid dreaming he stopped doing it. oh ya and btw i have never lucid dreamt before and have been trying ultra super mega hard to lucid dream from all the stuff i heard.

As already said I do also not think that lucid dreams become boring ever, but there are several people who stopped it because they had real life problems/more important stuff going on in the real life so they could/did not want to concentrate on lucid dreaming for a while.

so i was wondering if you do something in your lucid dream do you become as good at it in reality. like basketball i really really wanna get better at basketball and what if i just like shoot around in my dreams will i get better at shooting in reality?

It is definetly, as you can improve movement sequences and learn things also in lucid dreams. It will not be possible to train like in real life, with physical motion, but it is, in some aspects.
Heres a quote from Wikipedia:
Paul Tholey used lucid dreams systematically, to learn complex motion sequences. With this it was possible for him to "train" physicaly difficult sports like skateboarding and snowboarding in his dreams and with that prepare moves etc. for the waking life or perfect learned things.


and can i play a game with like my dream characters but no exactly control them fully, because if i will be able to control them i wont get better. like can i be like i wanna face ricky(the best baller i know) in his real skill and both of us will play a one on one game will i get better ?

All you do and all things and Characters(!) in your dreams are just products of your mind, so everyone you will challenge and everyone you meet will behave as your mind wants him to behave. This also means that a ball cann fly with loopings just to the basket and hit it from a totaly unrealistic distance.


if that can happen how can someone get bored of lucid dreaming
I mean i would just shoot around in my dreams if theres nothing else to do.
oh ya and can you slow down time in lucid dreams ? or like fastforward and rewind it. and can you make all the dc act like they would in normal life and like you know basically live life buh experiment with what will happen.

I think it is able to slow down time like in matrix style, read of people who often experience this in lucid dreams.

and another thing abt lucid dreaming is .. how come its not popular? i mean its virtual reality for free .why dont people know abt it .

I think there are two main reasons why it is unpopular.
On one hand it is very hard to learn, and noone can prove that it will happen. Many people see sleep just as a time for relaxing and dreaming as something very unimportant.
On the other hand I think that many people just do not believe it (which may be a consequence of it's unpopularity), have you never talked to someone like "I can control my dreams and fly and summon monsters" and he was just like ?


lately i have been getting really discouraged because i have never been able to lucid dream and i want to soo DAMN badly like seriously man i wanna do so many things i cant tell you guys. i wish i was a 'natural' possibilities would be endless... i tried so many wilds,mild couple of times, do reality checks all the time. im gona try wbtb tonight .. sometimes i just think of giving up...
i just see what you people have to say

Don't give up, I'm shure it's worth it, but maybe you try just too hard. Maybe take a week break, keep filling you dreamjournal but rest a bit from attempts of lucid dreaming. And then give it a try again, I'm shure that this can help. Good Luck in the future and I hope I could answer some of your questions.

Thorim

Originally Posted by gaarav gosal

and another thing abt lucid dreaming is .. how come its not popular? i mean its virtual reality for free .why dont people know abt it .

Why? Probably because:

Originally Posted by gaarav gosal

lately i have been getting really discouraged because i have never been able to lucid dream .... sometimes i just think of giving up...

of attitudes like that, especially for people who are skeptical to begin with or just don't have the discipline and willpower. Why people don't know about it? Some people I talk to think it's an acid trip. Others think its newage bullshit. Some believe in it, but lie to themselves and just won't put in the effort. Some people won't buy into it because of religion. Some people don't even have recall and find the whole concept absurd. I'm sure there are many other reasons, too.

Was lucid dreaming ever a topic in a popular TV program format?

(I guess not, because you can't just buy it. And because you can't make money with it, no one does marketing for lucid dreaming and therefore it's not popular.)

i heard that WILDing is like the hardest technique right? so mayb if you've been spending all your time trying to wild that might be why your getting discouraged? i have a friend who can ld but has been able to naturally for as long as he can remember. just thought everyone could, (luky sod haha) and he used to study for exams in his dreams. except i dunno how coz isn't writing all screwed up. anyway that's what he was saying. maybe he did sums and stuff in his head.

Originally Posted by mattmuffler

i heard that WILDing is like the hardest technique right? so mayb if you've been spending all your time trying to wild that might be why your getting discouraged? i have a friend who can ld but has been able to naturally for as long as he can remember. just thought everyone could, (luky sod haha) and he used to study for exams in his dreams. except i dunno how coz isn't writing all screwed up. anyway that's what he was saying. maybe he did sums and stuff in his head.

It CAN be the hardest, but for some it's the easiest... guess they have some sort of natural affinity or are just damn lucky, but some people claim to have success after a handful of attempts or even on the first one Yes, lucky sods!!!
I'm planning on studying for my spanish class if I'm lucid dreaming when it starts. In my non-lucids I often am trying to speak to people in Spanish and conjugating my verbs and etc., so I don't think that would be too difficult. My dad laughed at me and I told him I'd be the one laughing when I got better at Spanish for summoning a mariachi band

Originally Posted by Shift

It CAN be the hardest, but for some it's the easiest... guess they have some sort of natural affinity or are just damn lucky, but some people claim to have success after a handful of attempts or even on the first one Yes, lucky sods!!!
I'm planning on studying for my spanish class if I'm lucid dreaming when it starts. In my non-lucids I often am trying to speak to people in Spanish and conjugating my verbs and etc., so I don't think that would be too difficult. My dad laughed at me and I told him I'd be the one laughing when I got better at Spanish for summoning a mariachi band

i've dreamed in spanish heaps! its awesome. it kinda helped coz i went to argentina on a student exchange for 6 months so i was fluent so i was thinking, dreaming, whateva in spanish haha it was mean. but yea man dreaming in spanish is AWESOME! if you need a hand with your spanish flick me a PM and i'll see what i can do. I'm not as fluent as i was, but i still got it. had a dream in spanish the other night hehe