Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

Wow, I thought it was just a few people, but it seems a lot of people here have parents who still believe in magic. I live in a community without very many religious people, so I thought the stories of "crazy Christian ladies" were just that. That's actually really funny, but I guess it kinda sucks for those of you with batshit parents.

Originally Posted by Conkt

Wow, I thought it was just a few people, but it seems a lot of people here have parents who still believe in magic. I live in a community without very many religious people, so I thought the stories of "crazy Christian ladies" were just that. That's actually really funny, but I guess it kinda sucks for those of you with batshit parents.

yeah, I'm lucky to live in eastern europe/ex-USSR and perhaps one of the few good things it left behind, apart from all the infrastructure and stuff, is that all religion was cracked down upon so now, while ppl are officially "christian" few go to church except for weddings/funerals and if you were to say in ukraine that "the earth is 6000 years old" or that "evolution doesn't exist" or even that you "actively go to church and are overly religious", people simply will look at you as a crazy/weird person (I do not know how many ppl in the US actively believe this so the horror stories from there might be exaggerated).

Still, even if the country isn't religious people will still think that you are weird cause you LD, unless of course you are in Tibet or someplace like that

Well, a person's not going to say that they're overly religious, but a lot of people go to church regularly, and a fair number don't believe in evolution. o.0

But yeah, being religious does nothing for making people think you aren't weird for LDing.

Yeah for real it REALLY bugs me when my main interest is frowned upon.

Bass - I can sort of understand where people are coming from. But they're just really ignorant. Still, everybody looks down on your for playing. Cause you "can't hear it. You have four strings, you hit one note at a time, you're supporting."

You would notice if they quit playing. I play with 5/6 strings. You don't always hit one note. Not always.


Lucid Dreaming - I don't understand this at all.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Yeah for real it REALLY bugs me when my main interest is frowned upon.

Bass - I can sort of understand where people are coming from. But they're just really ignorant. Still, everybody looks down on your for playing. Cause you "can't hear it. You have four strings, you hit one note at a time, you're supporting."

You would notice if they quit playing. I play with 5/6 strings. You don't always hit one note. Not always.

don't ever let people tell you to stop playing bass. music would be shit without bass. if they can't hear it, then they aren't listening to the whole song. i play guitar, but i would hate to play with just me and drums, it would suck. i love bass!

edit: also im religious, i go to church when im able, and i don't think lucid dreaming is demonic or whatever. i think people who do are just stupid and ignorant.

Originally Posted by James2302

don't ever let people tell you to stop playing bass. music would be shit without bass. if they can't hear it, then they aren't listening to the whole song. i play guitar, but i would hate to play with just me and drums, it would suck. i love bass!

edit: also im religious, i go to church when im able, and i don't think lucid dreaming is demonic or whatever. i think people who do are just stupid and ignorant.

People who frown on lucid dreaming are totally ignorant.
As well as people who frown on bass.


Say, you like bass and play guitar, look up Protest the Hero or Between the Buried and me. Insane synergy and riffs.



I have no idea why people frown on LDing. I mean really, what the hell?

In an attempt to keep this thread on it's original topic...


My family is fairly religious, but that doesn't mean you can't be open. I don't discuss dreams with my family much, although they all understand lucid dreaming. It does surprise me that so many people don't believe in lds..considering the majority of adults have at least one as a child.

My parents vaguely know from the one or two occasions I've mentioned it. They don't really care though. So yay for me.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Yeah for real it REALLY bugs me when my main interest is frowned upon.

Bass - I can sort of understand where people are coming from. But they're just really ignorant. Still, everybody looks down on your for playing. Cause you "can't hear it. You have four strings, you hit one note at a time, you're supporting."

You would notice if they quit playing. I play with 5/6 strings. You don't always hit one note. Not always.


Lucid Dreaming - I don't understand this at all.

Totally know what you mean about the bass... nobody I know has the same love for music as I do. In result they never really listen to music. I listen to this heavy metal band... everyone else says it sounds the same on every song. But they don't listen. They don't hear the violin and viola in the background, or the bass, or the guitar still playing after the intro... the world need's to listen and be more open.

I used to discuss my dreams with everyone I knew. Before I knew the term 'lucid dream', I had them, and would describe by nocturnal adventures to my mother. She expressed some concern at some of the 'dangerous' things I was doing, like jumping out of windows -- I should be careful not to do that in real life. I knew I wouldn't be stupid enough to do that. I assured her that in dreams I could somehow tell the difference. That's the only time anyone I knew raised any 'objection' to lucid dreaming (or one aspect of mine). Practical, completely irreligious in nature, as was my upbringing.

Re: advice for LDers with hatin' parents: members have already suggested the option of keeping it secret. Easy to do with something that goes on purely inside your head. And keep your journals electronic.

If you're a more confrontational type, see if you can get other reasonable people (real people, not internet people) on your side. Friends, teachers, doctors, an understanding church leader..?

I used to tell people but i stoped because they arent really intrested my parents don't know but if they did they wouldn't really care. My dad is an open minded person so he would probably think it is intresting.
Nothing can stop me i have wanted to lucid dream before i even knew it exitsted but i didn't think it was possible. Imagine the excitement on my face when i discovered it was real

Well, I guess I convinced my mom that it has nothing to do with witch craft, and all that, but now she thinks it's bad for my health... >.>

I even tried explaining it's just dreams, it can't hurt you. Ugh, this is really aggravating...

*sigh...

It is weird how everybody seems to be afraid of it... like it's going to hurt you or something. I guess LaBerge is right... everybody subscribes to the Freudian idea that dreams are important 'messages from the subconscious", and that we shouldn't tamper with them. Like somehow taking control of a dream will choke off the messages that are supposed to be coming through the pipeline.

Little do they realize that in lucid dreams any messages from the subconscious can actually come through much louder and clearer... it's a lot easier to get the message by talking to a dream character lucidly than by just being endlessly chased around by giant bears who never say anything!!

@ yuriythebest: I assure you all that the USA is still a very VERY religious country, especially the southern states. We have a set of states nicknamed "the bible belt" and that's no exaggeration. If you're not christian you're not American here, you're a piece of shit... trust me. I would hate to be a foreign exchange student coming to a southern christian family in the US and not being christian, or having different values.

Originally Posted by MementoMori

I assure you all that the USA is still a very VERY religious country, especially the southern states. We have a set of states nicknamed "the bible belt" and that's no exaggeration. If you're not christian you're not American here, you're a piece of shit... trust me. I would hate to be a foreign exchange student coming to a southern christian family in the US and not being christian, or having different values.

Oh man... I'd feel sorry for that exchange student. =( It really depends on the family, though; some of us are perfectly capable of respecting other people's religious views (or lack thereof). Others, though... well, not so much.

I'm not religious. Nobody cares.