Thread: More Lucid Kids These Days Than We Think

I have told 5 of my friends that I can lucid dream and they all can too, regulary. They all have them about 6 times a month, they didn't know it was special, I didn't either. They didn't know that eachother could do this either. Is there a reason for this or is it a coincidence?

PS. We are all 14

There isn't any real way to tell for sure. It could go either way, by which I mean to say there could be an unknown factor playing into you and your friends' lucidity. According to statistics I've read, only 20% of people have LDs regularly, so it doesn't happen to everyone, but some people happen to be naturals. One of the people I know online only has a few normal dreams every year and the rest are all lucid. She's a special case, of course, but you might be [a natural] as well.

i think a lot of people think they can LD but they really cant. i think of a lucid dream of not only complete and utter control over your dream, but incredible clarity and realism. i have a friend who thought he could LD but it turns out that he just knew he was dreaming and decided on where the story went. If you dont feel like you feel in real life, then its not a lucid dream. if you cant control everything in your dream, its not a lucid dream either. but thats just my say on it.

That is just an opinion. I don't think there really is any solid definition as to what lucid dreaming is, but most definitions will refer to the self-awareness and clarity as a requirement, and being able to manipulate the dream more than you could manipulate reality as one of the additional possibilities.

Also, remember everyone's brain works differently.

If you dont feel like you feel in real life, then its not a lucid dream

So, would you say someone who feels everything is even more real than in real life in their dream is not lucid? Or to someone where it doesn't feel real, but far more clear than reality? Are they not lucid?

Or someone who feels completely awake and real and fully aware in the dream, knowing they're dreaming, and they can manipulate their environment to the extent they could in real life but can't, for example, fly, or do anything else that goes against their perception of reality even if they try? Some people are just wired up like that.

Originally Posted by FluBB

if you cant control everything in your dream, its not a lucid dream either. but thats just my say on it.

a person could be lucid with crappy control. dream control doesn't define lucidity. awareness does.

Well, for *full* lucidity, I think that Charles Tart had it ("Lucid dreams are those in which the dreamer is aware that he is dreaming, clearly recalls his wak-ing life, and considers himself to be in full command of his intellectual and motiva-tional abilities."). However, I must also agree that lucidity is not a [true] or [false] thing. There are levels of lucidity. Allow me to quote again, and then I'll leave it be.

Spoiler for Ed Kelog:

PRE‑LUCID ‑ in the dream, I notice some sort of bizarreness as unusual for physical reality. Or I don't consider myself in ordinary physical reality at all, although I realize almost none of the implications and still mis‑identify the actual situation.



SUB‑LUCID ‑ realize that I dream, but continue to follow the dream "script"; no conscious choice.



SEMI‑LUCID ‑ still follow the dream script (knowing that I dream), but I can make minor choices in keeping with dream reality e.g. I might choose to fly rather than walk.



LUCID ‑ I have the choice of following the dream script or not, can make major choices based on awareness of my potentialities in the dream state e.g. might choose to try a dream experiment instead of continuing the dream scenario, etc.

FULLY‑LUCID ‑ fully aware that I dream and of the location and state of my physical body; also remember any lucid dream tasks that I had earlier decided to try (lucid dream healing, intentionally changing body form, precognition, etc.)



SUPER‑LUCID ‑ aware of self as an integrated whole: self‑remembering. Thinking, feeling, creating aspects of self working as a unified whole (conscious, subconscious, and paraconscious). Extraordinary (even for dream reality) abilities and experiences often manifest.

Originally Posted by FluBB

i think a lot of people think they can LD but they really cant. i think of a lucid dream of not only complete and utter control over your dream, but incredible clarity and realism. i have a friend who thought he could LD but it turns out that he just knew he was dreaming and decided on where the story went. If you dont feel like you feel in real life, then its not a lucid dream. if you cant control everything in your dream, its not a lucid dream either. but thats just my say on it.

Actually it is uncommon to have full conscious in a LD you are still asleep after all. You can have a high level of conscious in a LD but usually not as conscious as you would being awake because your logic centre isn't fully fuctional. There is also different degrees of lucidity so just because you aren't highly conscious doesn't mean you aren't lucid.

Originally Posted by FluBB

i think a lot of people think they can LD but they really cant. i think of a lucid dream of not only complete and utter control over your dream, but incredible clarity and realism. i have a friend who thought he could LD but it turns out that he just knew he was dreaming and decided on where the story went. If you dont feel like you feel in real life, then its not a lucid dream. if you cant control everything in your dream, its not a lucid dream either. but thats just my say on it.

The definition of a lucid dream is just knowing it was a dream. It has nothing to do with how much clarity or dream control there is.

Originally Posted by bradysdreaming

Actually it is uncommon to have full conscious in a LD you are still asleep after all. You can have a high level of conscious in a LD but usually not as conscious as you would being awake because your logic centre isn't fully fuctional. There is also different degrees of lucidity so just because you aren't highly conscious doesn't mean you aren't lucid.

Originally Posted by Naiya

The definition of a lucid dream is just knowing it was a dream. It has nothing to do with how much clarity or dream control there is.

Holy crap i was right for once

Originally Posted by Naiya

The definition of a lucid dream is just knowing it was a dream. It has nothing to do with how much clarity or dream control there is.

very true, though realizing i am dreaming is what triggers clarity or vice versa, so it kinda goes hand in hand.

I started lucid dreaming when I was very young over 15 years ago,
even at that young age I knew that I was doing something very out of the ordinary,
I stopped talking to people about it because I realized nobody else was doing it and they thought i was crazy.

Countless people have told me; "oh ya i've had lucid dreams all my life, i didn't think it was special" ,

if someone says that you know they are lying because they are mistaking true lucidity with the typical
awareness and control that goes along with most peoples dreams.

when i explained lucid dreams to my friends, they all claim that they had them all the time as well. it wasnt until i went into detail about it that they realized they were wrong. many people have dreams all the time where they have somewhat control or somewhat clarity. a TRUE lucid dream in MY opinion is the mixture of the two but with higher levels. obviously there are different levels of lucidity, but i wouldnt call a dream where you kind of manipulate the storyline a lucid dream. tons, or dare i say most people do that every night to some extent. the difference is the total awareness that you are dreaming, and the amount of control that comes after that.

I am 14. I just got a friend into LDing he thought it was really cool. First night he had his first LD that didn't last, like me.

He's 15. Barely off.

You're lucky, I only have one friend who's ever even dreamed, and he doesn't talk about them too much.



I'm 22, and he's 19 I think.

Hm, did you investigate further? When I told some friends back in highschool, they all claimed they could do it, but were just trying to brag... then again its so easy to know when someone wants to do that lol
Anyway, if they can do it, thats cool!

Originally Posted by Walms

Hm, did you investigate further? When I told some friends back in highschool, they all claimed they could do it, but were just trying to brag... then again its so easy to know when someone wants to do that lol
Anyway, if they can do it, thats cool!

Got one of my guys on the forums. Actually he's my only LDing friend.
I have nerve damage and at my bass lesson we had to stop, so we started just talking about what we do besides music. His reply was "Sometimes i'll realize i'm dreaming. Very rarely. I don't really do anything with it, but if I'm falling, i'm gonna wake up."

Im pretty sure tons of people have had LDs, but, not very good ones, and not very often.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Got one of my guys on the forums. Actually he's my only LDing friend.
I have nerve damage and at my bass lesson we had to stop, so we started just talking about what we do besides music. His reply was "Sometimes i'll realize i'm dreaming. Very rarely. I don't really do anything with it, but if I'm falling, i'm gonna wake up."

Im pretty sure tons of people have had LDs, but, not very good ones, and not very often.

From here on out lets say the average person has at least 1 LD in they're lifetime.