Thread: Twoshadows' Dream Journal

Originally Posted by Twoshadows

I'm going to make this work. In fact, I believe I was almost doing it the other morning when I re-entered that college dream I wanted to finish. If I had been more focused I believe I could have become lucid. I don't get to sleep in until Saturday. But I'll try it if I get enough sleep tonight.

Adam's Technique


Hey guys, I have been wanting to post this for a while but been testing it on myself first for a few mornings, with mixed results so wanted to share with you and maybe with your help and experience we can adapt this to make it work better for others. Its something I have done for a while but only just drew myself up some rules around it. I dont have a name for it, although Straight Back to Bed (SBTB) seems the most fitting.

The Theory

Okay, when ever I have achieved multiple lucid dreams, I tend to find I am always lying on my back, in fact most of my lucid dreams are when I am on my back. Also, they almost always seem to be in the morning, not half way through the night, added to this, my recall is at its best in the morning when I am in my longer REM cycle. So this got me thinking about induction techniques.

The WILD works by staying awake for 30 minutes or so then slipping back into sleep. I think this is too long and for me, is a hard technique to master, and often you can loose your motivation when you are lying for 30/40 minutes and still not achieve it.

I am of the belief that the quicker you slip back into a dream from waking the more chance you will have of inducing a lucid dream so I propose this technique for people to try and report back on with their results.

This will be going into a mini guide I am putting together but this technique I want to test first before I complete the guide so you guys are my guinea pigs :p

The Technique SBTB (Straight Back to Bed?)

The idea is that, when you very first awake in the mornings do your very best not to open your eyes, neither should you move at all. Keep the thoughts of your dream you have just awoken from fresh in your mind and slowly roll onto your back. Most people will find lying on their back to sleep quite uncomfortable, but since you only just awoke you should be ok falling right back to sleep.

So you have rolled onto your back and keep the images and memories of the last dream you had in your mind and think about what you would have done if you became lucid and carry the dream on in your thoughts from the point you woke up and imagine what you would have done if you stayed sleeping and were lucid. So as you are doing this you will in some occasions notice that your mind will wander from the dream scenario, and as long as it is not thoughts of what you are going to have for breakfast or your day ahead just go with them, don't fight it as this will only make you more awake. So what ever your mind tries to do just go with it, but keep the thoughts of what you would do if you were in control of this.

You should find you fall asleep pretty quickly, I normally manage to do this within a minute of waking up. And with mixed success has become lucid. Please give this a try and let me know what your results are.

(Pre)Requisites

Okay there are a few things you need to consider before trying this, these might change based on your successes but for me the following I have found is important.

- Make sure you have a regular sleep pattern! So sleeping 11pm till 8am or something, try to make this regular, I know some people have work, and other commitments, but if you can keep a regular sleep pattern of what works for you. Try not to get too tired, as I find my lucid dreams are better after a lot of rest and within light sleep.

- Don't use an alarm! Its important that you only wake up when you body tells you to wake up. So for me I usually have to be up at 7am for work. If I make sure I get at least 8 hours sleep that gives me the opportunity when I awaken early enough to try this. So when you first naturally wake up, try remain as still as possible with your eyes shut thinking about the dream only.


- Follow your mind! When you are first awake, your mind will be fresh with the dream you awoken from, don't fight these thoughts and think about getting up, instead keep them fresh, and keep with them, and carry on the dream in your mind. If you mind wanders, as it invariably will, then go with it, and slip back into the dream and sleep.

Good luck, and I hope this works for you. You might not slip right into the dream you were thinking about before you slip back into sleep, but this method has been pretty reliable to me and now I feel after trying to perfect it, getting the views and experiences of ou guys trying it, maybe I can adapt it and publish a complete guide

Thank you for your time.
Adam.
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Hello

This sounds like it could be good, I have tried the wild thing but find it takes way to long and I just loose intrest.

I have this week of work so I will give this a go so what happens. Iwill post if I get any results at all

Mark you might want to check the thread in my sig, I have since come up with an updated technique which has given me 100&#37; success so far may need to taylor it to your needs though, if you like check out the post, link in the sig

And for that shameless plug - I bring gifts made with love lol

lol nice one mate I will try out that new one tonight..oh that twoshadows picture you put is is mint! how the hell did ya do that lol

Just opened the shutter on my camera, moved a light about to create the letters and closed the shutter

Adam, That's sooo cool. I love it!



Mark--good luck with Adam's technique.

My life had been busy lately and I have been distracted. But one of these days I'll FOCUS and try it. I really think it'll work if I actually give it a try.

I am glad you like, now see if you can do something better

I was gutten when you did the Snails because I couldn't think of anything for ages that was worthy of a reply lol.

ha ha yeah tell me about it...a usy life has distracted me on a number of occasions. I have massive gaps in my dream journal because of starting a new job and family stuff lol so im just getting back into this now that things have calmed down a bit

oh by the way I love your journal...good reading

Originally Posted by Adam

I am glad you like, now see if you can do something better

I was gutten when you did the Snails because I couldn't think of anything for ages that was worthy of a reply lol.

Haha...

I've had a hard time doing anything else after the snails, too!

But yours is definitely awesome!

Originally Posted by mark

ha ha yeah tell me about it...a usy life has distracted me on a number of occasions. I have massive gaps in my dream journal because of starting a new job and family stuff lol so im just getting back into this now that things have calmed down a bit

oh by the way I love your journal...good reading

Thanks Mark.

Yeah, it's hard to dream well when you aren't getting a lot of sleep and when you have others things that you're thinking about all the time. And I think it's okay. Lucid dreaming is one of those things that you can enjoy, but you don't have to stress too much when you get busy---at least that's what I tell myself. (Maybe I do get a little stressed when I go too long with out one...)

Anyway, Mark, good luck. Hope you have a chance to Ld now.

I'm trying to focus again on dreaming

Originally Posted by Twoshadows

Haha...
(Maybe I do get a little stressed when I go too long with out one...)

Ha if you suffered one of my dryspells you'd have a nervous breakdown

Originally Posted by ranma187

Ha if you suffered one of my dryspells you'd have a nervous breakdown

Probably. I don't know. I'm trying not to think too much about my dry spell.


Dreams:

Dream 1:

I just rememeber watering my garden and seeing a place where I had squash plants. I remember thinking, "Wow, I didn't know I had planted these here." And I looked and saw that they were covered with huge squashes. I was really pleased because the other squash (the ones I planted in real life) hadn't produced well.



Dream 2 (maybe 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. etc.....)

I was playing World of warcraft.

In one of them, I was completing a quest. The person I was playing with then said, "Now that I helped you with your quest, you need to help me with mine." And I remember thinking, "But I'm sooo tired now." I didn't realize that I was going to have to help him next...



Edit:

I might go camping tonight. I don't know how that will affect my dreams. I probably won't sleep as well. But sometimes that helps me remember better because I'm waking up more often during the night. Lately I've not been getting enough sleep and when I finally get to bed I sleep solidly til my alarm rudely awakens me. But I don't know if I'm going to go. There are no toilets there...and I'll have to drive.

I don't like camping, I don't like the idea of not being able to wash, not having a toilet, wild life sharing my sleeping bag with me lol

Good luck getting over the dry spell. I'm on week 6 of mine. And good luck to you, too, ranma.

I used to camp out on a regular basis for about 9 years. I kind of miss it sometimes. I loved being able to hike around and explore.

But the stars will be beautiful.

Damn shame about that dry spell, TS. I'm sure your LD's will come back, in full force, once you break out of it!

And did you end up going camping? How was it?! I've only been camping twice, one of those times was for a week, though, with ROTC. We had these big 20-man, GP-Medium tents and all the guys had to set up the girls' tent while they sat around and laughed at us because there was coral under the grass and it was HELL trying to get the stakes to stay in the ground.

Well, later, we had a storm come in (we were set up right by the ocean) and, at about 3 in the morning, the girls' tent blew over and they all get DRENCHED. HAHA. We all had to wake up to help them salvage their stuff, but damn was it ever worth it!

ha-ha I can imagine the looks on their faces after that!!! Bet they were not laughing then!!!

well gh I did have a few semi lucids in the past week. the last i tried to do a lucid task but i forgot what it was. So, I'm on the right track i guess

Originally Posted by Adam

I don't like camping, I don't like the idea of not being able to wash, not having a toilet, wild life sharing my sleeping bag with me lol

Well, I did go camping....and I had an LD (CILD--Camping Induced Lucid Dream)!!

The no toilet part wasn't fun, but there was some pretty dense brush so at least there was privacy.

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

Good luck getting over the dry spell. I'm on week 6 of mine. And good luck to you, too, ranma.

I used to camp out on a regular basis for about 9 years. I kind of miss it sometimes. I loved being able to hike around and explore.

Thank you, GH.

Yeah, one of my favorite things to do is explore new places. You should try to get out camping again. It makes you appreciate nature...then it makes you appriciate being home.....

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

But the stars will be beautiful.

Oh my gosh, yes. It was gorgeous. The stars were as bright as they get. No light pollution at all. The Milky Way just glowed across the sky.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Damn shame about that dry spell, TS. I'm sure your LD's will come back, in full force, once you break out of it!

And did you end up going camping? How was it?! I've only been camping twice, one of those times was for a week, though, with ROTC.

......and they all get DRENCHED. HAHA. We all had to wake up to help them salvage their stuff, but damn was it ever worth it!

Funny story. Funny though that the girls didn't put up their own tents.

And thanks, O. I did have an LD last night, so maybe I'm coming out of the dry spell. I even completed the Advanced Task!

Originally Posted by ranma187

well gh I did have a few semi lucids in the past week. the last i tried to do a lucid task but i forgot what it was. So, I'm on the right track i guess

Well, good for you.... I hope I'm following your "right track".


Lucid Dream in next post.....

Lucid Dream while Camping.


As I thought I did wake up in the middle of the night. I had to go to the bathroom. It was cold and I didn't want to leave my sleeping bag and tent to go out ot the bushes, so I laid there and suffered for at least an hour. Finally I relaised that if I was going to get any more sleep that night I would have to get up.

The stars were brigth and I didn't even need a flash light to find my way 50 yards or so to my "bathroom spot".

After that I felt so much better I fell right to sleep. Since I was a bit cold, I fell asleep on my stomach, which I find is the warmest and also the most comfortable postion while laying on hard and uneven ground.

I started to dream.

I remember that I was walking down the street with two friends, when we suddenly saw a group of children dressed in Halloween costumes going Trick-or-treating. The following thougths went through my mind:

"Oh my gosh--it's Halloween. How did I not know? Now it's way too late for me to decorate the house or carve pumpkins. This is such a nightmare--it's just like all those dreams I have about it being Halloween and I'm not prepared. If only this were a dream. But this is too real to be a dream. I mean, if this were a dream, I owuld have already started floating by thinking about the possiblity of it being a dream. But I'm not floating...and I can't imagine floating becasue this is too real....But just for fun, maybe I should try floating....."

And I took off with a big jump and tilted backward until I stopped in a horizontal float on my back.

That was such a thrill to be able to do that when I was so sure that it was real life.

The first thing that came to my mind at that point was to do the Advanced Task of creating an animal out of water.

I looked in front of me and saw a drop of water form, floating at about eye level. The drop started to grow until it was a little bigger than a basket ball. At that point I started to see it form into the shape of a cat. It was kind of a blobby cat. The legs and tail were all connected to the body and not separate. It was a bit triangular in shape--kind of like a pyramid. (I need to draw a picture and post it).

As soon as it was finished, it landed on the ground....and I woke up.

All right! TS is back! You need to start going camping more often!

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

All right! TS is back! You need to start going camping more often!

Thanks, Moonbeam!

I'm probably going to go camping again in two weeks (again, just one night), so we'll see if I can do it again.

Alright! Congratulations, TS!

Hey congrats on the camping lucid

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Alright! Congratulations, TS!

Originally Posted by Adam

Hey congrats on the camping lucid

Hey, thanks Oneironaut and Adam.

I actually had another short lucid dream last night. It was in the middle of other dreams so I don't remember real good detail, but I do remember some things.

Lucid dream:

I remember I had been talking to this lady about something. And then I suddenly said, "I'm lucid dreaming". I have no idea what triggered that realization.

I decided I wanted to do the Advanced Task again. I was suddnely by a swimming pool. I wanted to make an "snake" of water come out of the pool, then I would form it into an animal. I focused and I don't think i was able to do it.

I was then in a bedroom. I was trrying again. I got that droplet of water started like last time. I focused again. And I suddenly saw a seal that the drop of water turned into. It was no longer made out of water, but was a stuffed animal toy.

I then had a FA and went on to other dreams.


Other dream fragments:


I was putting up Halloween lights--the purple ones-- in my dining room.


I was supposed to be performing in this thing. Another girl and I had learned this song and I had a speaking part. I was then practicing for a dress rehersal. i was so nervous that I forgot how to read. I was trying to read my part, but I was having to sound out words. I was so humiliated. Later I was complaining to someone about how frustrated I was that this sort of thing happens to me.


I was listening to this lullaby. It was so beautiful. I was mesmerised. I wish I remembered it.