Thread: DaveTheJoker's Workbook

Do you want to focus on dreaming or not? Your wording leaves me confused...

Writing down every dream really helps.

He wants to, he just sometimes gets lazy with his journal.

Chop chop Dave!

Originally Posted by melanieb

Do you want to focus on dreaming or not? Your wording leaves me confused...

Writing down every dream really helps.

Yea, my wording is horrible and I was being lazy even when I made this thread. Just like I was lazy this morning. I thought of a few sentences about my dream, but instead of writing them down, I rolled over and fell back asleep.

Originally Posted by DaveTheJoker

Yea, my wording is horrible and I was being lazy even when I made this thread. Just like I was lazy this morning.

I thought of a few sentences about my dream, but instead of writing them down, I rolled over and fell back asleep.

I'm starting up a new idea to help remember dreams and fragments, especially if you have multiple dreams and wake up between. It's based on something gab and I talked about. You pick images from your dream and literally link them together in your mind. And you do this just prior to rolling over and falling asleep, and you're sure to remember alot more. Say for example you dreamed about a duck and later you dreamed about reading a book, then later about a hot girl. So the moment you wake up and remember these things, before rolling over and going back to sleep, imagine a duck holding a book, and the cover of the book has an image of the hot girl. Something like that. I tried it for the first time last night and woah nelly! We'll talk about it more later if you're interested, I think it will really help recall, especially the dreams that happen earlier in the night, because those get forgotten first usually.

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

I'm starting up a new idea to help remember dreams and fragments, especially if you have multiple dreams and wake up between. It's based on something gab and I talked about. You pick images from your dream and literally link them together in your mind. And you do this just prior to rolling over and falling asleep, and you're sure to remember alot more. Say for example you dreamed about a duck and later you dreamed about reading a book, then later about a hot girl. So the moment you wake up and remember these things, before rolling over and going back to sleep, imagine a duck holding a book, and the cover of the book has an image of the hot girl. Something like that. I tried it for the first time last night and woah nelly! We'll talk about it more later if you're interested, I think it will really help recall, especially the dreams that happen earlier in the night, because those get forgotten first usually.

That sounds like something would work, its a very good idea. I will definately try it.

This morning I had my best ever morning in dreaming! Or at least most productive. I woke up after at least 3 dreams and I had the choice of getting up or rolling over and instantly having another dream. So that was good. Plus I successfully incubated some stuff in my dream even though I hardly even tried at all. Plus a lucid. I need to work on control.

I did a half-assed attempt for a MILD before bed, I wonder if that is what caused it. Not too sure, but either ways, I know what I want to do.

Congrats DaveTheJoker! Good recall and lucidity, that's a very successful night! Glad that dream incubation worked well for you too. Do you typically use MILD before bed? Maybe you can make it part of your nightly routine?

Glad you're seeing some progress, DaveTheJoker. Keep it up!

Congrats on your lucid Dave!!

Thanks guys!

I'm just glad that I am seeing some slow progress that last dry spell was over a month long. I need to spend more time on my DJ entries. I usually just either write them down in my notebook or type them on my phone while I am still in my bed, which means the grammar is less than spectacular.

Well I am definitely seeing improvement. I am much more used to dreaming than I was even a week ago. I am used to having multiple dreams in one night and waking up between them (although it doesn't happen every night). I just need to learn to remember to stay still and conscious so I can hopefully explore DEILDing. I had perhaps my most interesting dream last night, I had a dream within a dream. While oreoboy1996 informs me that there is really only one layer of dreaming, it was a very cool experience. I don't think it was skill that got me lucid though. Following the plot of the dream made me immediately lucid in my dream within a dream. Well, its kinda hard to explain. Probably the coolest dream I've remembered though (not that cool, but cool for me). Won't be on chat tonight because I got temp banned from the server, but I do have some questions about dreams like that and stuff for later.

Here's my DJ entry: LD Within - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

A side note on DJing: I am of course recalling some dreams without typing them out on DV, I often leave boring or really short dreams out. I still do, however, type whatever I remember on my phone.

I guess it is ok to double post on my own thread. Some reality checks I have done during the day have been yesterday, for example I kept seeing a dead deer in my peripheral vision (no idea why) and one of the times I noticed that I did an RC.

When I have felt disoriented I often do RCs any given time. I also did an RC when I woke up at 6:00AM this morning, as this is so incredibly rare for me. In public, I have to do mental RCs though, because I have already had people look at me funny for trying to push my finger through my hand. Mental ones are better anyway.

Yes it's ok to double post in your own workbook Think of it like a supplementary dream journal.

A dead deer in your peripheral vision? That is odd lol

Good job on the RCs Dave. The RCs first thing in the morning are especially great, because you never know when you might have an FA!

Well this morning I remembered a dream or two that weren't very interesting.

I did wake up into SP and somehow kept myself from moving. I waited and waited and I got a little excited but nothing happened so I got up and began my day. I am glad that I was able to wake up into that. It was about 10:30 when I did that so it was at the tail end of my sleeping anyway. If it had been earlier in the morning I would have been able to DEILD I think, which would be awesome.

Cool that you got to experience some SP. You're right on the brink of having an LD. Wonder if you had set an alarm for a bit earlier if you would have had success with a DEILD?

Originally Posted by OpheliaBlue

I'm starting up a new idea to help remember dreams and fragments, especially if you have multiple dreams and wake up between. It's based on something gab and I talked about. You pick images from your dream and literally link them together in your mind. And you do this just prior to rolling over and falling asleep, and you're sure to remember alot more. Say for example you dreamed about a duck and later you dreamed about reading a book, then later about a hot girl. So the moment you wake up and remember these things, before rolling over and going back to sleep, imagine a duck holding a book, and the cover of the book has an image of the hot girl. Something like that. I tried it for the first time last night and woah nelly! We'll talk about it more later if you're interested, I think it will really help recall, especially the dreams that happen earlier in the night, because those get forgotten first usually.

I've heard people use this technique for decades to help recall all kinds of things. It works.


Dave...sorry about your ban. Keep dreaming and writing them down!

That is a really neat trick

Good luck and happy dreaming


P.S. OldSparta lifted your ban in irc chat just now :3

Had another LD last night. MILD worked again. I am glad to see I am having some success with MILD. Not much recall though. I became spontaneously lucid. I remember I lasted longer then the normal couple of seconds before waking up. I still was desperately trying to get in control, and it ended after a bit. It all depends on when and how I go to sleep and when and how I wake up.

Unfortunately the previous few nights I didn't even try a technique.

I am thinking that sleeping really lightly or something, because I keep waking up when I get lucid. With all of my geek-ness, I would say that it seems like I get lucid and my dream BSOD's and I wake up. Any tips on staying asleep? I can even tell when am sorta going in and out of a dreaming state.

[QUOTE=paigeyemps;1905734]That is a really neat trick

Good luck and happy dreaming

Congrats Dave! You're really on a roll now.

Have you tried stabilizing your dream? Maybe if you focus on stabilizing, you won't wake up so quickly. Focus less on control and just try stabilizing for a minute or so next time.

Awww that's awesome! Congratulations

And yep, I agree with what Caenis said about stabilizing the dreams first.

Kick ass dude!! Just keep going hard and don't stop soon ur brain will break to ur will! That's also a friendly reminder to myself lol

I had another dream last night that SHOULD have been a lucid. I saw a bunch of women walking around naked. I said "That can't be right, I must be dreaming". I tried several times to jam my finger into my hand several times and nothing happened... I came to the conclusion that it wasn't a dream....



I really need to start doing better quality RCs'.

Hahahaha, ouch. That's pretty painful Dave. You even RCed several times! Okay, so which RC(s) will you switch to?

It's cool that you were aware in your dream though, and that you RCed multiple times when your first RC failed. You've been doing really well, so don't let this stuff discourage you! Once you work out these little kinks, it should be easier for you. So has your recall gotten better in the past day or two?

Originally Posted by Caenis

Hahahaha, ouch. That's pretty painful Dave. You even RCed several times! Okay, so which RC(s) will you switch to?

It's cool that you were aware in your dream though, and that you RCed multiple times when your first RC failed. You've been doing really well, so don't let this stuff discourage you! Once you work out these little kinks, it should be easier for you. So has your recall gotten better in the past day or two?

My recall unfortunately has been weak the two nights before the last entry. I find that my recall is directly coordinated to thinking about dreaming and MILDing. In other words, if I don't try to get recall, I don't get it. Last night I also did something special and pulled out one of our air mattress and set it on top of my bed. I think that both increased my awareness, and allowed me to sleep better.

Yeah changing stuff up a bit works for me too, like you said, increasing your awareness in general. I will sleep on my bf's side of the bed using his pillow when he works night shifts and I get a similar effect. Mixing things up a bit keeps you from going into autopilot too much, which is, as you know, bad for awareness.

Originally Posted by melanieb

I've heard people use this technique for decades to help recall all kinds of things. It works.

Oh totally, I used to use it in college all the time to remember gobs of seemingly unrelated facts. It wasn't until I got alot of complaints about recall on DV that it occurred to me to suggest it as a way to remember multiple dreams in one night.