Thread: Dragon's Workbook

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Sounds perfect! Keep good records of each attempt and you'll uncover a ton of great information about what works best for you.

Also, experimenting with WBTB length can also make a big difference. Some people do fine with a short WBTB while others get the best results with 30 minutes to an hour. Some people even go longer! The main thing is that your record keeping will help teach you your own personal formula.

Good luck!

I didn't even think about the length of the WBTB, just the time. Thanks for reminding me of that . I'll be sure to keep the length of time in mind in addition to when I wake up!

So last night I set an alarm to wake me up 4.5 hours after I went to sleep and I planned to do a 10 minute WBTB. I ended up waking up an hour and a half early, and then I got up and checked some stuff, and went back to sleep. I slept right through my alarm somehow... and had a long dream that I ended up only remembering parts of.

Starting DJ Again! 1 weird long dream - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Then, at 6:30 in the morning, my alarm went off. I checked the time I had set it to go off, and it was 3:45 am.

I had a short moment of lucidity in a dream last night that ended up with me falling off some stairs.

Pretty much, I spontaneously combusted became lucid at the top of a staircase. I decided to go down the stairs for some reason, and as I went I got a bit dizzy and the dream became less vivid. I remember having conversations about spinning around and how that sometimes can help. I started spinning, but I was still going down the stairs, and I lost complete control and balance, and fell down, then woke up.

Next time I won't spin on the stairs

I has two lucids dreams these past two nights . Both were pretty cool (in my opinion).

First dream: Middle School Teacher Teaching me how to WILD - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Second dream: Parents Telling me that I Couldn't Possibly be Lucid Dreaming - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I completed goals in each of these dreams . They both were also more vivid and aware than my past LDs.

Wow great job! You have been having lucids quite a bit lately. And the best thing is that you've managed to do your goals i wish you more lucids, keep it up!

Originally Posted by DragonMaster21

I has two lucids dreams these past two nights . Both were pretty cool (in my opinion).

First dream: Middle School Teacher Teaching me how to WILD - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Second dream: Parents Telling me that I Couldn't Possibly be Lucid Dreaming - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I completed goals in each of these dreams . They both were also more vivid and aware than my past LDs.

Great job, DragonMaster!! Congratulations on all of these recent lucids and for managing to follow through and achieve your goals!

Very impressive! I'll check out those DJ entries as well.

School is starting...which means homework and spending the entire day in classrooms, but it also means a stable sleep schedule! My sleep schedule during summer is just too hard to predict. I get into this mindset of 'I can go to bed as late as I want because I can wake up whenever I want'. With school, I'll be going to bed earlier, and waking up at the same time each day, which I think will really help

Also, I was just going through, reading the ToTY attempts...Just too funny xD

I agree! Your new, more stable sleep schedule should really help you here. Just be sure to get enough sleep... I sometimes remember staying up too late in school and that alarm clock's time didn't change. Sufficient sleep is vitally important for dream work (not to mention school performance, health, and a generally happy life.)

I guess it's obvious that I am a big, big fan of sleep.

Ha ha, there's some funny stuff in those TotY attempts... it's funny how much crazy stuff can happen when people start desperately going for difficult (IMO) multi-step tasks like that. Lots of fun!

Good luck and enjoy the new sleep schedule!

Sleep is always good . I know what you mean about the alarm clock...especially last year. It was difficult to get out of bed when the alarm went off, and certainly didn't remember any dreams those nights.

In light of the school year and new sleep pattern, I'm going to go ahead and redo the list that I had on the first post of this topic.

Reality Checks:
-Nose Plug
-Finger Through Hand

Dream Signs:
-Need to focus on this one!!!

Goals:
-Wingsuit
-Skydive...without deploying a parachute
-BASE jump, also without a parachute
-Shapeshift
-Complete ToTM Basic
-Complete ToTM Advanced
-Complete ToTM Bonus
-Go to space
-Visit another planet
-Throw potatos at every DC I see
-Wreak havoc at a sophisticated event
-Run around naked
-Screw around with DCs
1. Go into houses and turn furniture upside down
2. Ask them weird questions
3. Give them a present, such as a rotten banana or melted popsicle
4. Poke them continuously
5. Say weird things to them
6. In general, be a weird, weird guy to DCs

-Find and notice dream signs
-5 lucid dreams by the end of September
-10 WBTBs by the end of September
-Consistent sleep pattern

Long-Term Goals:
-ToTY
-1 lucid a week
-3 WILDs by the end of the year
-3 DEILDs by the end of the year

Lucid/Dream Recall History:
-My recall is good when I get enough sleep and keep a journal. I need to start keeping a dream journal again, and make sure I go to bed early enough to get a decent amount of sleep.

Current Technique:
-DILD with ADA, WBTB
-DEILD
-Going to start focusing on WILD as well

Alright then, that's that . I'll probably copy this into my dream journal to read over before I go to sleep, during WBTBs, and when I'm writing down my dreams to remind my self of goals. I'm going to go through and read the beginner class stuff, just to give myself a refresher and maybe pick something up that I may have been missing. I guess the first step now is to calculate when I should go to bed, and get up, and start a DJ

Also, I had a short weird lucid dream last night. Pretty much, it felt like a video game, and my actions controlled the game. Suddenly, I was aware, and never thought to myself I was dreaming, but knew I was. It was weird because I would move my body, then the game would move, but my view was of the game, if you get what I mean. I ran around for a bit, being a derp but not really doing much, then I woke up. I tried to DEILD back in, and I went back into the same dream scene, but I wasn't lucid. Then, there was a huge, smooth, cliff that people were climbing up, so I decided to climb up myself. I don't remember anything after that.

That's great! I love the specificity in your goals too. And congrats on the lucid

Congratulations on the lucid, DragonMaster! And I love the new goals write-up. You've got a lot of fun stuff laid out for yourself.

Have a great time! I see a lot of DCs getting a lot of potatoes chucked at them in the near future.

So last night I did a WBTB about 5 or 6 hours after going to bed. I got up, went to the bathroom, and then pulled up the computer. I started doing some art stuff for a while, and stayed awake for about 40 minutes. I attempted to WILD when I went back to bed. At one point, I started to drift into sleep while being aware, but my body had a slight jerk and snapped me out of it, so I went back to bed. The WBTB helped with recall though, and I remembered two dreams, but not a lot of the details:

Dream 1: Playing Legend of Zelda style game. I'm in a room, and my friend says, "Is that a __________?" (Don't remember what he said) then something appeared and I said, "Yes!"

Dream 2: I did a lot of traveling in this one, but at the end I was in my house. My sister was sleeping and it was already around 2:30 PM. Some teachers came over to say hi, and wanted to talk to my sister, but she was sleeping. They ended up leaving and my sister came down and was angry that she couldn't talk to the teachers. I said, "It's already 3:30 in the afternoon! You should have been awake by now."

I think that 40 minutes may have been a bit of a long WBTB for me. In past experience, waking up, going to the bathroom, and sitting in bed for 5 or 10 minutes was enough to help improve recall for that night.

I've really noticed an increase in dream recall lately. I haven't been writing down much, but I've been paying more attention to my dreams. I'll start writing them down tonight...or rather tomorrow morning when I wake up

Good to hear! I myself have been getting kinda lazy with writing them down, though I try to. I also make sure that even if I end up not writing them down, that i still make the effort to recall them.

Originally Posted by paigeyemps

Good to hear! I myself have been getting kinda lazy with writing them down, though I try to. I also make sure that even if I end up not writing them down, that i still make the effort to recall them.

I've been doing that. Instead of writing them down, I've been trying to recall as many details as I could while laying in bed. I think writing them down will be more helpful though, especially for looking for dream signs.

Originally Posted by DragonMaster21

I've been doing that. Instead of writing them down, I've been trying to recall as many details as I could while laying in bed. I think writing them down will be more helpful though, especially for looking for dream signs.

Very true, and also just for rememberance in the future when you wanna reread old dreams

Had a lucid dream last night, yelled my ABCs, forgot the other tasks, and failed at Quidditch!

Became Lucid, Couldn't Remember ToTM - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by DragonMaster21

Had a lucid dream last night, yelled my ABCs, forgot the other tasks, and failed at Quidditch!

Became Lucid, Couldn't Remember ToTM - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

!! Congrats Even with the Quidditch fail, it's still a very good attempt and definitely not a waste of lucidity.

Woo, 3 lucid dreams over the weekend!

Skiing...In a dream - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
Long and Vivid Lucid Dream, for me! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Woww!! Three in one weekend? Congratulations, DragonMaster! I'll have to check these out!

Ugh, I need to focus more

One of the problems that is coming back is not being able to go to sleep when I want because of my family. My room is in the basement so every noise made by my sisters and mom upstairs travels down in to my room. Earplugs help, but they don't block out the sound completely, and when I'm going to bed at night, I need it to be silent and any talking is especially annoying (even when I'm awake, hehe). I end up sitting on the computer listening to music until my sisters have gone to bed or until I'm too tired and I just use earplugs.

Like I've said a million times before, I just got out of the flow. I stopped journaling, then I stopped doing ADA, RCs, etc, then my recall started to go down, and now I'm pretty much where I'm started. I want to get back into lucid dreaming, like said a million times before as well, but I think I want to focus more on WILD (and DEILD) and WBTB. WILD has been something that has interested me and I would like to explore it more.

I guess we will see what happens, but I'm getting fed up...with my lazyness . It's been nearly two years since I discovered lucid dreaming, and I haven't made much progress towards where I (and most everyone) wants to be. I know a lot more about LDing and I can give good advice, but I can't actually stick with doing any of it for myself. I think it's time to actually take this seriously and focus, focus, focus!!! My next steps will be to get something for a dream journal and start journaling, then to do ADA, WBTB, DILDs, etc, and then to start trying out WILD.

I'm going to treat this like I did nearly two years ago when I was a starter, and go to sleep every night excited and hoping for a lucid dream. Seriously, the first two months I started lucid dreaming, I went to bed at 8:30 each night because I was so excited about getting a lucid dream. Obviously, it started working because I had my first lucid, then one a week later, and another one soon after.

Rant over . This will be fun . for all the help that you all have given me so far. I really appreciate it!

Wow, I haven't posted here in a while =P.

In my English class my teacher is doing a lot of stuff with the creative process, and she says that noticing things is part of it. An assignment we have is keeping a What I Noticed journal. We have to have 2 entries each week and it's basically like an awareness journal. We just need to take some time during the week and sit down and just be aware of ourselves and what is around us and write down what we notice. I really like it so far and it'll help me with my awareness in general. Next trimester, my English class is Literature of Self and Place or something, like Emerson, Thoreau, etc, and I think that'll be really interesting for self-awareness as well.

I feel like I have been making some progress with my lucid dreams. When I find myself lucid, I'm able to stabilize it and make it more vivid. I've also been succeeding in some DEILDs too which is really exciting and I'm very happy about that . School started two weeks ago and with that I started having a more consistent sleep schedule. Bed around 9:30 or so and wake up at 6. This has helped with recall quite a bit.

I've really been trying to visit the forum everyday and to practice and stay motivated. I've been reading through the dream journals as well. I think I'm going to start chatting on IRC soon. For some reason whenever I go to chat, I feel nervous. I don't know why

Going to start figuring out my optimal WBTB time after sleeping for x hours and amount of time to stay awake.

WBTB Time
4 hours 30 minutes
5 hours
5 hours 30 minutes
6 hours
6 hours 30 minutes
7 hours

WBTB Time to stay up
5 minutes
increments by five to
45 minutes (maybe an hour)

I'm just not sure how to go about testing the WBTB times for all the different wake up times. Any suggestions?