Tried similar supplements last night except I bumped up the G by 1mg and took the full 4mg pill. I also now have 500 mg of Valerian per pill. Took those and I did have a couple very short lucids but nothing to write about. I did a lot of observing before I tried to jump into the dream. A few times I was pulled straight out as soon as I was in the dream and did anything. One time I was able to interact with a DC for a second and another time I was able to fly for a few seconds but nothing concrete. I still need to stabilize longer. I think after my super long one last week I thought of myself as an expert who didn't need to stabilize, that's what i get for getting cocky. I am going to reduce the G to 2mg and see how that works. I think I was definitely too awake after I took it last night to get into a good dream.
Supplements tend to influence our sleep and dreams a lot, some more than others obviously. They can make your dreams more vivid, evoke different types of emotions, dream contents, etc. Some are quite useful for making you lucid, although you still need to do some work. G generally facilitates all sorts of lucid experiences, but as we already discussed, it can make you quite wakeful. I think it really super boosts your brain (it's primarily used to help older people with Alzheimer's outside of ld communities), so that may make it harder to get deeply into the dream. Therefore, dreams can be a bit shallow and more unstable (this may also be similar with wilds after a long wbtb). Some of the more experienced users of G here have seen a gradual increase in dream lenght over time. I guess it's a mix of stabilization skills & experience plus a slight desensitation over time.

Hmmm..Was the ld on the 30th also supp induced? What supps did you use then?

As far as techniques are concerned, I find that a proper wbtb coupled with mantras and expectations for an ld has ben most effective for lding. Another thing that I liked doing a lot in the past was looking at my hands and repeating autosuggestion like "I realize that I am dreaming" - very nice for random dilds. Also, have tried out different supps with B6 and caffeine being my favorite for easier induction. G's a bit too strong for me at the moment (it did result in lds but they were quite short too). Another supp I like is Gingko, it's quite nice for increasing dream recall and boosting vividness.

Anyways, if you are interested in different combos, you can check out a few threads like the menthol and caffeine research threads. Xanous and CL, and more recently Highlander use G more frequently, so you might consider asking them for a few tips on that supp or other supps.

http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...-enhancer.html

http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...e-trigger.html

Good luck!