Thread: 501's Workbook

Man - I had kinda a crappy night last night 501- 1 tiny (and I mean short short) lucid and nothing after the wbtb with the vibes!!! REALLY frustrated me!!! And I agree with what you said with when the lucids get spaced out you get excited again, so when the next hits you often blow it too soon....I think thats absolutely correct, its a really fine line between being really motivated to get lucid, and then being ultrachilled when you do not to screw it up!!! My lack of getting any vibes incorporated into my dreams last night and your question about daytime R/C's really got me thinking alot today - so thanks for that - I think maybe I've identified an area I was going wrong in - so I'm going to try and correct this.

Anyways - thanks for the posts bro - its nice to know someone else is battling through and having some successes (like your family intrusions into the dream world too - sounds pretty familiar to mine!!!) - I think a massive part of this is just patience, practice and ENDURANCE, and the more everyone tries to stick together and not drop out, the more likely we all are to get to where we want to be!!! (trying to be positive here to psych myself up ) cheers - T

Good one 501! It's great this time you had the opportunity to do some food tasting! Never too late to try dog biscuits!

Originally Posted by Tlaloc

I think a massive part of this is just patience, practice and ENDURANCE, and the more everyone tries to stick together and not drop out, the more likely we all are to get to where we want to be

I absolutely agree. Being patient and persistent is very important. You guys have been doing really great so far and just need to keep going. All the good dreamers here have walked a similar path.

Hiya 501! You gearing up for another G weekend??? I've had a pretty stressed week (pointless exercise - went for a new job, went through the interviews, got offered it but I turned it down on consideration - did my own head in!), but hoping to get back to the dream work soon, with some vibe nights. Had a close shave last night with a 'normal night'. Best of luck 5!

I'm planning on having a go tomorrow night. Hopefully I will get to sleep in a bit. This week has been strange for dreams in general. I don't know if it is the time change or what but my recall for 3 nights in a row has been pretty bad. I think that the time change really threw my sleep cycle out of wack for some reason this year. Good luck on getting back on the vibes!

So yesterday for a nap I went ahead and tried some G and C with a little Valerian, no luck. I can absolutely never remember any dreams I have during an afternoon nap. I feel like I have one but they never come to me. I also got some GABA in the mail and took some of that before bed last night. A couple of vivid dreams but nothing close to lucidity. It was a pretty restless sleep as well. I have been reading that even better to relax you with G and C is L-theanine, so I might try that sometime.

I dont know if I am going to have a day to sleep in this weekend. I have to be somewhere at 7 on Saturday morning and 730 on Sunday morning. I am going to try to figure someting out for Sunday morning but its not looking too good. Like I said before this whole week has been pretty whacky for me. I haven't been doing the best at RCs either. I have been doing a couple an hour maybe. Just going to keep on it and hope for the best.

The early wakes on weekend totally suck. Hopefully you will be able to adjust your sleep schedule next week and up your lucidity. Take care!

Been awhile since I posted last. Well I wasn't able to sleep in last weekend at all so I didn't try G and C. I did take the day off on Tuesday and tried the combo but no luck. I had a very short semi-lucid dream where I found myself shouting stabalize, lighter and focus. I never did really realize it was a dream though. The cool thing about the combo I have been using is even if I don't get lucid off it, the dreams are usually still very vivid and make for a good journal entry the next day. I have yet to really try to WILD on G and C, I have never WILDED and really gotten into a dream. I think I have been close and successful for a second but jerked right out. I am actually up for my WBTB right now and about to head back to be in a minute. Hoping for the best tonight, its been almost 2 weeks since I have had my last lucid. Bad thing is I am going out of town again next month and hoping I don't have another cold spell. Well happy dreaming!

If you keep you the good daywork you may avoid a travel spell. By the way, I did one lazy thing to remind myself about lding - recorded an audio with most of my DS. Now the only thing that's left is to actually start playing it couple of times a day and before bed.

Hey 5! Hope ur well, have you got some G planned for the weekend?!

Its funny you mention the drinking thing. I have pretty much stopped drinking. My wife and I would usually have a few bottles of wine on the weekends every weekend and I have pretty much stopped doing this since the weekends are the times when my lucids are most likely to happen

- I know what you mean! Planning for a lucid attempt was pretty good at keeping me on the straight and narrow in the early days - but I've started slipping of the wagon!!!! Sometimes its too hard to say 'no', esp if the better half is up for chilling out! Its nice to relax but it tends to wreck the wbtb attempts as I'm too dull if I have more than 1-2 drinks (and you know how it is....once you have 1 or 2, 3 and 4 tend to follow!). I think its best for me if I either do one or the other, I get frustrated if I try and do both and don't end up getting lucid because I'm not focused enough and that doesn't help my motivation (or hangover!) either.

Anyway I guess the flip side is at least if I don't get lucid I'll get alittle merry! Have a good weekend bro!




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Hey T! Ya I was going to post on here today. I did a G attempt last night, my dose is at 4mg now which I can actually relax enough to get back to sleep on.

I had a couple glasses of wine last night but did not over do it. I took 5htp before bed and no valerian at night or at WBTB. I did a WBTB at about 430 and went back to bed at 5 or so. I probably got to sleep around 530 or 6 and was in and out. I just kept catching myself slipping into a dream and then popping right back out. I had one dream with no lucidity at all and one dream I got lucid in and as I was stabilizing my ex came up and I pushed her away by her face and got pulled out of the dream. I think I had another lucid last night but cant remember, if I did it was crazy short. My daughter was in my face at about 715 and was not going back to sleep, so it cut my sleeping in way down. I am going to try again tonight and she might be spending the night with grandma.

So I had a short lucid enough to see about 8 fingers on one hand and begin to try to focus and chill out.

I guess I am on a dry spell again. Not really sure if I ever really got off a dry spell or have been too consistent. Last weekend was pretty rough for lucids; 1st night daughter got me up early and next night I am on some new galantamine which was much stronger than my last it seems. Kept me pretty awake and I don't even think I ever really got back to sleep on it.

I am up for a WBTB now and going to try halving the dose to see what happens. I am going out of town for a couple weeks so that will probably either add to my dryness or make me have a couple lucids since it does do that sometime.

Well, don't be too hard on yourself, especially if the circumstances are against you. I had a sort of dry spell last month, for about a week and it made me somewhat frustrated not to have lds for quite a few days in a row. My sleep schedule was all over the place and felt tired during the day too due to a number of emergencies. The best thing is to wait out the challenging period and not place too high demands at that point. Also, thinking 'I have a dry spell' is not helpful either as we all know by now.

If you don't get the chance to wbtb, you may still play around with other techs to complement the practices in those times when things are more challenging (but also in normal times - for more lucidity, the more techs you use the better). Some to consider would be pre bed mild, deild from non-lds, or ssild if you have a natural wake. If you are super tired practices may be less effective but may still work to give you an ld. Best of luck and take care!

Well I had a Lucid last night but didn't remember until I woke up and started my dream recall. I do remember stabilizing for a bit and trying to run through a wall with no success. I remember also that I did another RC and it passed in my dream and I think the dream took over then. I don't remember anything after I did that RC later and it passed. I really don't even remember what prompted me to do an RC in the first place when I initially became lucid. I did stabilize for a bit and touch a lot of stuff around the environment. I remember thinking that my heart was beating really fast in my dream but I just focused on stabilizing. Well that is about it for now.

hiya 501! All ok with you? I feel we've both headed to the bottom of the regular repliers list for this intro class!!!

Congrats on the recent lucid 5, I'll fallen into a lull, I am sure it is almost entirely due to a lack of motivation, without the motivation my awareness goes down and without the awareness I'm much less likely to get lucid. I have the slightly awkward situation that I can't get up or move around when I wake to do a wbtb as my wife is a REALLY light sleeper, so I kinda have got less and less wakeful as times gone on. It feels like going through the motions rather than getting really rev'd up.
With your G - can you just pop it like a pill to boost awareness or do you have to mix it up just before you take it? Just wondering if it might help,

hope alls good bro! Cheers - T

Hey T! Good to hear from you. Yeah it seems like we have almost fallen off the wagon doesn't it.

I have still been doing RCs consistently throughout the day hoping for that random awareness in the dream where I say.... "hey... somethings not right" then do a check. Those are few and far between. I may need to spend a little more time on RCs or just change them up a bit. This is something you definitely have to be active in. It has to be something that is on your mind quite a bit so it will carry over to the dream. It is pretty hard to do when I am pretty busy throughout the day. I think one of the best things to do would be to actually use the dream signs and absolutely do an RC while that sign is present.

As far as the G it has been very hit and miss. Just when I think I have it down I dont. I dont know if my body has gotten used to it a bit or if (since I got a different brand) it effects me different but its something that definately has to be played with. The first several times it made me very restless and took a long time to get back to sleep. You just have to relax and try not to get too worked up. But yes it is just a pill you can pop. It does increase awareness for the most part, sometimes it will give me really weird dreams but I dont RC and other times I will RC. It is very hit or miss for me. I may give it a shot tonight. Last couple times I took it I had a headache most of the next day, so that kind of sucked.

Ok well good hearing from you brother!

I have had a few lucids since my last post and will probably list the dreams on here soon. I have actually been bad about writing in my journal. I have taken short notes but I usually take short notes right when I get up and then write the whole dream later. Right now I only have notes for the last week or so. I have had good dream recall, been doing random RCs, as well as RCs during dream signs and RCs when my cell phone app goes off.

Going through and tallying them back up I have had about 4 or 5 lucids since my last post a couple of them fairly long. Some of them I had very early in the night and did not take notes on them so forgot how they happened or what I did in them. I remember (and took notes) on 3 of them. Some nights I had two or more lucids but like I said I only have notes on three on three separate nights. These have all been non supplement induced. It seems like the new G I have gave me a headache the whole next day after I took it and I haven't taken it since, the last time was about 2 weeks ago. I think it has been within the last week where my lucids have gotten stronger and more frequent.

I have not been concentrating and thinking about them all day long. I still do my RCs but its not on my mind all day long. The last few I have been in I haven't had that stressed feeling that I have had in prior lucids. I just realized I was dreaming and then went on with the dream. In the last few I have been working on my dream telekinesis which has been pretty cool. My dream signs have been celebrities for a couple of my lucids, specifically Michael J Fox and Bob Sagat. I did not watch anything with those two in them either so It was rather strange.

One of the dreams involved a little garden I started with my daughter and someone dumping fertilizer all over our vegetables. I used my 'powers' to raise the fertilizer out of the garden, I then proceeded to squash big spiders with my mind. I would lift them up and then squash them in the air. I had a little audience while I was doing this. The spiders started to get bigger and bigger and I kept squishing, (I am not a huge fan of spiders). I ended up getting spider web in my hair with spiders and then something latched on my back. I ignored it but it was pinching me pretty hard, I think it ended up being a squirrel. I either lost lucidity or woke. Another dream I did a second reality check my lifting a pot in the refrigerator and once it started moving it went super fast and disappeared into the ceiling, just vanished. This gave me an idea to fly through the ceiling but I just kept jumping and hitting the ceiling. I neither flew or could get through the ceiling. So I ended up giving up.

I have been pretty busy at home and work so much time to write on here or in my journal, but I am still working on lucid dreaming and having success.

Those are fantastic news! Well done! I also sometimes don't have the time to write down the whole ld entry even later during the day and leave unfinished notes and notes like 'finish this entry' and then never do. But the good thing is notes or no notes at least you are getting nice ld practice. Also, in times when extensive journaling isn't an option, it helps to add a title and do a mental review that way info isn't completely lost.

Dream control stuff sounds like fun, but those spider squirrels can be so pesky. Happy to hear you're still managing awesome lds despite the busy schedule.

Well its been awhile since my last post on here. Its been pretty dry on the LDs for about 2 weeks but had some pretty awesome ones last night. These were supp induced. Haven't had any non supp induced and recall has been a little on the downside. The hours of sleep I have gotten have been a little less and I have had other stuff on my mind, so of course it messes with recall in the morning if other stuff is on the mind.

Those added with some drinking on weekends haven't been too conducive to the whole LD thing. Last night was a different story though. I probably had a total of 5 lucid dreams all together, full dream below. Also got a TOTM done too!

TOTM for May 2014: Telekenesis and a Shot! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Well done 501! You caught up by having so many lds in one night! Great totm execution - so much TKing, loved the part with the X-mas three and presents and also the tequila task! Congrats!

Thanks NyxCC.

I tried the same combo last night and wow another really cool night. I did some flying and more TK along with some fireballs.

I have to save the G and C for weekends since it is really pointless to take them unless I can get at least 8 to 9 hours of sleep. During the week I only get 6 to 7.

I am not sure what happened to my non-sup induced lucids. I think I have had more on my mind than usual during the week so it has been hard to think about DEILD or DILD with the other things popping in there first. Its all good though, I will take the supps and I could deal with 8 lucids in one weekend every weekend. Some of them were very short but once they started each and every one was lucid for about a 2 hour time frame at least. I don't know why this weekend the supps really started working. I had taken them a couple other times with no luck so I don't know if it is my mental state or what, whatever it is ill keep trying to do it.

Full Journal Below.

Flying, throwing people with my mind and a super hero - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Cool! Do you think the l- theanine addition made a difference?

So you tried crushing those poor DCs into a ball? You took the star wars use of the force to a whole new level. Ah, the dark side can be so tempting !

You know what I am really not sure. I also stopped taking 5htp prior to bed and no more valerian. I think it makes me a little sharper after I take the G by not taking valerian or melatonin and just taking the L-theanine. I may start taking the 5htp again but in a few weeks.

I am playing with the combos still of course but that has been the most powerful one for sure. Im going to toy with it a bit more by adding and taking away stuff but the G, C and L-theanine are staying. One thing about the G I have now is it tends to give me a pretty bad headache during the next day sometimes. I think Friday I will try the same combo and on Saturday I may try adding a bit of Kava root. I got the Kava a while ago but was a little hesitant to take it after reading about it. After further research it really depends on the brand, how it is made, how much you take and how often you take it that really gives the negative side effects. Ever try it out at all?

Well no supps last night but I did have a lucid late in the morning, a pretty good one as well.

I really need a goal that I really want to complete. I have been wanting to just fly in dreams but once I get up there I just make stuff up as I go; and since the thought process for me during a lucid is not usually logical I need to have a more defined set of goals.

Guess I am ready for next months TOTM.

Cool! Congrats! I had the feeling another ld (or lds) was about to come this weekend and voila! And supp free too! Fantastic!

I agree about having some goals of things to do. The lds where I focus on tasks usually tend to last longer because of stubbornness and more focus. That's also why I like to pick complex tasks in addition to the basic ones - always keep myself busy, learning new stuff etc. Looking forward to next month! Best of luck to you with the new tasks!

Don't have any experience with kava. Is it supposed to boost dreaming? One member reports having less to no lds after taking it. I guess because it's gaba agonist, could be that it acts negatively on awareness (slows brain activity)? No idea.