Thread: werty52's Workbook

I have been doing some dream stuff but I haven't gotten around to putting anything on DV yet, will do so later in this week

Busy busy busy... I haven't had the luxury of time this holidays. Fortunately I still think about lucid dreaming every day, and I had a random unexpected WILD.

The typical jaw vibrations that signify a WILD for me were there, and I managed to slip into this WILD better than any others, not experiencing any teeth breaking unlike the last one O_O phew.

Hopefully this is a sign of progress even though I haven't been able to do any dream journaling or focus on any techniques.

I think I'll finally be able to get back into the swing of things with lucid dreaming, my vacation time was well spent with my family and wasn't completely devoid of lucid dreaming
I ended up with another couple lucid dreams and have learnt a bit about how my WILDs progress and how to stabilize while I'm having my LDs.

Goals for the next few weeks:
-Read up on techniques again to confirm that I'm doing it properly
-Get used to making a dream journal again

Welcome back and congrats on your recent lds!

Haha thanks I plan on getting the tasks of the months done next time, I really want to test my control and memory in dreams after last nights dreams.

Bam, 2 lucids in 2 nights, good progress. All I've used is my dream journal for recall and WBTB+SSILD for lucidity, seems like an easy way to get lucid.
My problem at this point is that I've noticed my lucids aren't quite strong, as if there's still some kind of veil over my eyes. I'd like to set myself goals each night, see how that affects my in-dream intentions.

That's great, congrats on the lds!

My problem at this point is that I've noticed my lucids aren't quite strong, as if there's still some kind of veil over my eyes. I'd like to set myself goals each night, see how that affects my in-dream intentions.

Do you mean you are having some visual problems or was it rather an issue of clarity of mind? I read your entry, looks like a good ld and your idea to change the scary woman to a normal one was brilliant. I remember a lot of my early lds often involved some sort of confrontation or scare, so it took me a while to figure out some ways to deal with pesky DCs. There are many options from hugging to completely ignoring DCs. Making a nasty DC a friendlier one like you did is also a great idea.

Clarity of mind mostly, if I think about what I would do in a lucid dream now, I would instantly have a limitless list... But when I'm in a lucid dream the thought never crosses my mind, I'll end up engrossed with whatever the dream world puts in front of me, or I'll just randomly wander/explore without purpose.

I guess one way to put it from the more scientific perspective is that I'm not using the full capacity I have to think about my environment, desires, memories, etc that my brain would normally have greater access to in my waking state.

Thanks for the support I really appreciate the feedback

I see. On one hand all of this is dependent on your neurochemisty and how wakeful you are in your sleep. Longer wbtbs may help with regards to that. On the other hand, you can also try improving your clarity within the ld by shouting out something like "This is a dream" and also state any goals that you remember you want to do. This is especially helpful if you feel the dream scenario is taking over your lucidity and distracting you.

Thanks, I'll give it a try, I've had the whole shouting in a dream work for me once before. With extending my WBTBs I can sometimes have a hard time falling asleep again though :/ last night I barely got any sleep because I just couldn't fall asleep after a WBTB ...

Goals at this point:
-Shout in a lucid dream to attain clarity
-State goals in a dream (Atm I'd like to try interacting with a dream character in a way I haven't before, like talking to one or fighting or something interesting and engaging)

Managed to get a lucid dream last night, I did something I don't usually do which is to look at my hands for a few minutes before turning off the lights and going to sleep. I remember just moving my hands in front of my face during the dream and realizing I was lucid. I'll try this again tonight.

Also managed an attempt at shouting 'clarity' but it came out pretty weak. I guess if I had to describe it, I would say that as I was coming through a fog of awakening into lucidity, I couldn't quite anchor myself there and lost grip, waking up.

I extended the length of the WBTB I usually go through at night, not sure if that helped yet.

Goals for tonight:
-try to look at my hands for a few minutes each time I wake up before falling back asleep
-shout 'clarity' in the dream
-state goals in the dream (same goal as last time, I reckon brawling or just talking sounds like fun)

Congrats on the lds! The pre bed hands looking technique is working extremely well!

The part where you were listening to the dream world was pretty cool.

Completely forgot that I almost had a WILD either last night or 2 nights ago. It's also the first time I haven't had that teeth grinding and cracking feeling in my mouth and jaw... Instead I thought I was biting the inside of my cheek -.- Which kind of made me lose the transition (also couldn't get back to sleep for a while and couldn't get the transition to happen again).

Note to self: I have to say, WILD is probably the more exciting of the lucid dream methods, that feeling of the world transforming is something else entirely. I think it might be time for me to try and learn how to WILD using the common technique.

Successful lucid last night, didn't go into caveman mode which is good, I had a long moment where I thought to myself to just do the TOTM but I couldn't really be bothered trying to remember it. If I get lucid tonight I'll give the Basic i TOTM a try, which is drink a potion to reveal the ultimate truth to myself if I remember correctly.

Nice, congrats! I can relate. Having goals is very helpful for preventing the caveman/woman mode.

Hmm it's been a long time since I've posted an update...

I guess I'll start with why I stopped posting: University.
Over the past few months I got caught up in my hardest semester at uni, the usual paper requirement here is 3 per semester and I took 5, then I didn't get any time off at the end because one of my papers is a full year independent research project... That really sucked
One important thing to note though is that I hate speeches due to being deaf which has left me with a minor speech impediment, and I had to give a 10 minute speech that led to me having some extremely anxious nights for a couple months before the due date. Fortunately I scored really well 86/100
So that covers the 'why I've been absent' part...

Now, onto the lucid advancements: WILDs and spontaneous lucidity
On the really anxious nights I would occasionally become lucid, stress seems to spark my lucidity during the night I guess. I think this happened quite a lot towards the end, and something else started happening too...
...... I started getting some WILDs, which is something I've never explicitly practiced, but I have experienced them previously. These were pretty weird though since they just happened so naturally with no incentive, I'd just be trying to get to sleep and then feel myself slipping into a dream and then wa-lah, lucid. I think my ability to get lucid has increased despite not really practicing or recording dreams, also it seems like the detail is sharper in my dreams in general but I haven't paid much attention to this since it's been gradual - kind of just realized it as I'm writing to be honest...

Goals in the future:
None really, I have dream goals but my motivation is sorely lacking at this point, I'm interested but also not interested... Like I couldn't care whether or not I became lucid but I'm fine with it happening either way. I think my main problem is inspiration, I've been more focused on university for a while now so it might be correct to say my priorities have shifted. After all, originally I wanted to use lucid dreaming as a way to become more confident, I wanted to train myself to speak publicly through dream simulation - all for the goal of being able to present my speech. In the end I actually started engaging in more activities to teach myself to be comfortable in public situations. Glad I conquered that, much less stressful now.

I'll set a small goal for now:
3 dream journals a week.

Werty! Good to see you back!

It's great that you have managed to cope with all the work at university, getting good grades and having bonus lds and wilds on top of that!

Can you tell me, if you don't mind me asking, if there is difference between your senses and abilities in the dream world and the real world? By the way, I am firm beliver that one is capable of improving one's skills as well as confidence via lucid dream practice.

Your goals look good so far. I wish you a dream of inspiration that will help determine your next ideas!

Glad to be back

A difference in senses or abilities? Hmm... Like if I can hear properly? I guess there probably is, I haven't paid much attention to my senses, except for sight.

I haven't really noticed being deaf in dreams, although I have had nightmares about being deaf that weren't very realistic.
When I hear sounds in a dream I think it comes across more as a thought... A persons mouth moves simultaneously to mimic the sounds produced, but it's kind of an illusion since it's all inside my head, right? So the sounds come out unaltered I guess.
On the other hand, I think if I had a lucid dream and deliberately focused on the sounds then I would probably find I was still deaf it'd be a result of my awareness bringing me closely to reality.

There isn't usually a great deal of dialogue in my dreams, I struggle a lot with remembering it when there is, which might be why I haven't learnt a lot about this sense. I'm kind of interested now.. I'll try to figure it out over the next few days and see what my hearing is like, and if possible, what my other senses are like in the dream world.

In relation to other abilities, I'm usually more agile in my dreams and occasionally back flip .

Dream goals
-3 dream journals a week
-Determine how I hear in dreams

Originally Posted by werty52

Glad to be back


When I hear sounds in a dream I think it comes across more as a thought... A persons mouth moves simultaneously to mimic the sounds produced, but it's kind of an illusion since it's all inside my head, right? So the sounds come out unaltered I guess.

That is interesting. I think our brains are certainly capable of a great deal of precise simulation and we have no idea how it all happens. Just like in real life we pay attention to certain things, like whatever is going on at the moment, while at the same time a ton of other information is subconsciously processed and saved without us even knowing. And then the whole experience can be replayed and rehashed in dreams.

There isn't usually a great deal of dialogue in my dreams, I struggle a lot with remembering it when there is, which might be why I haven't learnt a lot about this sense. I'm kind of interested now.. I'll try to figure it out over the next few days and see what my hearing is like, and if possible, what my other senses are like in the dream world.

In relation to other abilities, I'm usually more agile in my dreams and occasionally back flip .

Dream goals
-3 dream journals a week
-Determine how I hear in dreams

Looking forward to reading about your observations. I think there are some distinctions to consider when paying attention to experiencing sounds in dreams. For instance, there is a difference between how the brain processes language from other sounds, like from moving objects or music. And there can be a difference between normal dreams and lucid dreams. Finally, even if one has a full experience of something, one may not be able to recall it. I usually don't remember much of dialogues in dreams too. There are a few other impressions I'll share next time as not to influence your experiment.

Managed to get lucid with a very small amount of effort (an unintentional WBTB) which led to a lucid which I remembered that I had a dream goal in, yet I couldn't remember what that goal was
Good to get back into the swing of things, I'm also feeling more interested and motivated about the whole thing.

Dream Goals:
-3 dream journals a week
-determine how I hear in dreams

That's awesome! Congrats, Werty!

Another lucid achieved but I screwed it up by smacking things out of peoples' hands and then trying to escape by flying which ended in me falling (and waking up) >_<.
The sleep I get each night is about 6 hours lately, which has been severely limiting my dream recall.
The lucid I obtained was pretty weak in retrospect, I wasn't prepared enough for it and I still don't have enough control on stability - I'm a bit curious as to whether or not being cooped up writing all day limits my awareness in dreams... I tend to people quite narrow-visioned after days like this.

Goals:
-3 dream journals a week
-determine how I hear in dreams
-need to improve dream clarity and stability

Haven't slept much in the past week, probably ~4 hours a night if I divide it up. Finally finished my final research report!

I'll be able to record my dreams again once I catch up on sleep after tonight and tomorrow.

Goals:
-3 dream journals a week
-determine how I hear in dreams
-need to improve dream clarity and stability

Things have calmed down so much lately, I feel no stress and I have heaps of free time. It's the first holiday I've had to myself in 2 years

Dreams have been crazy vivid, but I've had such a hard time cementing them to memory... To the point where I can't remember anything in the morning. Most of my dream journals have been small slices of a much larger dream scene, usually just the last couple minutes before waking up or something. I think it's because I'm so tired when I go to sleep because it's the holidays and my sleep cycle has gotten worse.

I must be getting close to 1 year registered and I've only had 30ish lucid dreams, which to me feels underwhelming. The amount of effort I have now compared to when I started is drastically different though. I'm still kind of lacking in interest these days, which I think may be due to not having someone to compete with... I usually get motivated when there's a competitive factor but I haven't even got anyone to really talk to about it

I think I've accomplished the 3x dream journals a week goal, so I'll try maintain that and focus on dream clarity and stability next. Once that's done I can focus better on determining how I hear in dreams. Wouldn't be a bad idea to go to bed earlier too

Goals:
-determine how I hear in dreams
-need to improve dream clarity and stability