can i die from lucid dreaming?

[Kahiko]

i realy want to know if i can die from lucd dreaming or its induction techniques. also is it possable that evil things wil come in my deam to harm me and i have NO way of protecting myself. i realy dont want to die yet because there is alot i need to die here. i think i already have had some bad experiance's with dreaming. i got fever from it and i got realy tired know i dont say these things are directly related to lucid dream but there is a big chance it is

[Freemorph]

I'm pretty certain dreaming cannot kill you. When you hit later stages of REM your breathing gets shorter and faster and your heart races but that is perfectly normal and natural. The only thing I could really think of is that if anyone has heart problems or bad anxiety should not try certain things like WILD because sleep paralysis can really work them up and scare them. But dreaming cannot kill you whatsoever it's safe and fun!

[Supernova]

No.

[Hukif]

Nop, LD is safe, and so are all of the induction techniques in the tutorials, can't say the same about the ones not in tuts though, but other than that, you are safe to try it. Welcome to DV btw.

[YYNYM]

Safer then real life. The assumption you can die is a strangely common misconception, actually.

[Kahiko]

ok i wil practice it more

[Specialis Sapientia]

also is it possable that evil things wil come in my deam to harm me and i have NO way of protecting myself. i realy dont want to die yet because there is alot i need to die here. It will probably happen because you believe it will, it won't be real evil things but yourself manifesting these fears. I don't know where you got the idea that you have no way of protecting yourself, that is like giving up before it happens. The best thing you can do is to overcome your fear, if you are fearless, any evil being won't be able to connect to you, with a lot of fear they can. You can't die from lucid dreaming, do you think you can die from normal dreaming too? You are in more control in the lucid dreams, if anything bad comes after you just realize it's your own imagination playing on your fear. Let them disappear, give them a hug, ignore them, just be fearless. Can you die from going out of your house? Yes, but do you stay in the house the rest of your life?

[yumester]

No, no, no, and no

[PercyLucid]

Nop... you can die in your dream but you will regenerate or wake up with no damage on your real body. You can enjoy LD without fear and use it to overcome all your fears and have fun. I'm sure you want to do certain stuff but you can't because you can die. Go ahead and do it while LDing. You won't die and you might accomplish and enjoy it.

[Kahiko]

i got a feeling i need to learn alot till i am able to do the things i want to

[PercyLucid]

Everyone needs to learn a lot everyday more. Even Stephen LaBerge (who is the absolute lord of lucid dreaming ) claims that he learns more and more everyday, so keep up the good work, enjoy your dreams, improve your recall and you will start having lots of lucids! And remember, you can't die in real life from a lucid!

[Merro]

You can die in the dream but it wont make you die in real life. Other ways. Lucid Dreaming can't hurt you.

[Puffin]

Dreams are dreams. Whether you think they're religious or spiritual messages, or simply your brain's way of contemplating things, nothing is changed by being aware in your dreams, or being lucid. Have you ever died in a dream before? If you have, you've obviously woken up because you're still here. What's the difference with dying in a dream in which you're aware you're dreaming? The short answer is no.

[Philosopher8659]

No, but you can die from a reaction to dream content. Most typical is a heart attack.

[Puffin]

No, but you can die from a reaction to dream content. Most typical is a heart attack. Oh my god, really?

[Philosopher8659]

Yes, really. One does not acquire immunity from their reactions to the environment just because they are lucid dreaming.

[Puffin]

Yes, really. One does not acquire immunity from their reactions to the environment just because they are lucid dreaming. I highly doubt that your physical reactions are that tied to your dream reactions, though. You can't pop a blood vessel if you scream your head off in a dream.

[Philosopher8659]

I am not sure that "dream reactions" is quite right, I said reactions to dream content. But, the root causes of heart attacks are often physical conditioning, facilitated by an external trigger. There is something more interesting however and that is a cathartic experience triggered by psychological changes brought about by lucid dreaming. One's psychological foundation depends a great deal on learned experience, and as learning actually changes synaptic pathways, it is hard wired. The real psychological changes brought about by lucid dreaming can lead to events in which the mind must actually destroy synaptic pathways because of conflict with what one learns. The danger in this is that one might seek professional care and the drugs prescribed may interupt a natural and quite frankly mechanical processes. The events are quite intense, and if one does not understand, quite scary. I have, early in my life gone through two of these. The second one, I saw it coming and simply rode it out. The main effects last about three days. Secondary effects can last for months. The depth of these, of course depends upon one's past experience. When it was written that at the time of the awakening of man's mind the world will be turned upside down, the reference was to more than doctrinal understanding, but real psychological changes. These changes are not unknown to science, it is known that there are two fundamental methods of processing information. Very high IQ people process information by, as Plato pointed out, the use of standards, definitions. One can see the difference in set theory, the two methods of constructing a set, enumeration and definition. Simpler minds use enumeration, and cannot change, the distinction is effected on a biological level, however, people born with the ability into society as it is today, never learn to exercise thought through definition.

[MythicDreams]

Ugh. Philosopher, your statements, encrypted in a convoluted, complicated way of speaking, confuse me. You make broad sweeping statements, without actual proof. It's starting to annoy me now. I'm all for good grammar, spelling, and punctuation, but (a lot of) your posts stink of psychological piffle. We could go on for weeks saying how primitive X (language, technology, the human mind, etc) is, because it makes us look smarter and more intelligent to point out the inadequacies of X, when most people think of X as quite clever or advanced. It's nothing new, I've seen it countless times. All I'm saying is, a little less of the Plato and old pychological waffle would be nice. It's not that I lack the intelligence to comprehend such subjects, but personally, I'm here to talk and read about lucid dreaming, not over-complicated psychological waffle, hidden in a maze of archaic English. No offense (really!), just my opinion. Now then, I'm going off to bed.

[Philosopher8659]

I really appreciate your whining. However, the assumption that you speak for everyone is quite big of you. However, I do not recall any mandate on this site that I had to dumb down for anyone. And, your manners are quite clear--you have no desire to clarification or even proof, for if you did, your approach would be the same as anyone does when they seek knowledge. The selective destruction of synaptic pathways by a brain has even been studied in regards to the common house cat.

[Cacophony]

You can kill yourself in a dream but you'll wake up perfectly intact.

[Philosopher8659]

I cannot agree. I always believed that relation to self was altogether inadmissible. Sometimes we do not clearly understand the words we use.

[Spenner]

You could have a heart attack whilst being in the dream, and something in the dream might have some notification that you're having a heart attack perhaps. Or an aneurysm. Nevertheless unless you have extremely poor heart conditions I doubt there's anything you can do close to damaging to yourself. Even if there was SOME element of risk, it would be extremely minute, and something you should dismiss. Just have fun dreaming

[ClearView]

no, no and again no. If you could die from it, obviously so many people wouldn't be discussing it, and continuing to do so. If it were to kill you, would we be here typing these very messages to you today? I think not. Welcome to the forums, -CV

[Loaf]

You can not die in reality from a lucid dream (or dream for that matter). Don't let anyone tell you any different.