Thread: 365 days w/o Jerking Off: A self control challenge

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Unless I masturbate at least 3 or 4 times, I'll think about sex all day long.

I am pretty sure you have your causality backwards, or possibly inside out. What you have there is a vicious cycle.

Originally Posted by mooseantlers

If you had the time would you not have sex with someone once a day

Once per day, every day, indefinitely? No. Maybe five times in one day, maybe every day for three weeks, but also maybe not at all for a week or more. The research is sparse and inconclusive, but many men observe lessened mental energy, and particularly creative drive, for hours or days after ejaculating. It's definitely an uphill battle for me to produce any creative work on a day when I've had an orgasm, though sleep seems to reset the process.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

I am pretty sure you have your causality backwards, or possibly inside out. What you have there is a vicious cycle.

Question, do you condone suppressing certain thoughts?

Just have a vivid lucid dream and do it in there..

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Question, do you condone suppressing certain thoughts?

Do you condone having no thought control? It seems to me that our actions are largely a product of our thoughts, what's wrong with at least attempting to dwell in thoughts that would condone preferred action and avoid the opposite? If you were in a relationship with someone and you were being tempted to cheat on them by someone you found physically attractive, wouldn't the most effective thing to do be avoid thinking what it would be like if you did and get out of the situation? Wouldn't that just be choosing foresight over immediate instinct? What's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Taosaur

I don't care how much slack you have; if you're toweling the dachshund ten times a day, you will want to grease up.

Having foreskin IS like having constant lube, sir. You can't wear it out by overuse.


Also, good luck weakamon.


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Originally Posted by Wayfaerer

Do you condone having no thought control? It seems to me that our actions are largely a product of our thoughts, what's wrong with at least attempting to dwell in thoughts that would condone preferred action and avoid the opposite? If you were in a relationship with someone and you were being tempted to cheat on them by someone you found physically attractive, wouldn't the most effective thing to do be avoid thinking what it would be like if you did and get out of the situation? Wouldn't that just be choosing foresight over immediate instinct? What's wrong with that?

My question was not a rhetorical one, just so you know. My opinion is not made up and I was genuinely curious what Taosaur thought about this, or anyone I suppose but Taosaur was the one saying I jack off too much.

Let me explain how I quit smoking cigarettes. I didn't think about smoking. I didn't refuse to think about smoking. Thoughts came or they didn't. For me, the trouble was not the thoughts but the emotional reaction they would spark. The trouble is, you need a reason not to smoke the next cigarette, because you can always tell yourself it'll be your last one. One of our greatest obstacles in changing habits is dealing with the habit now, understanding our future self is going to be just as weak as our present self and no more capable of completing what we need to do or refraining from doing what we don't want to.

So when the desire came to smoke, as far as thought control goes, I didn't have any, it doesn't exist. Thoughts come, dude. They just come into your head and there's nothing you can do about it. What you can do is choose not to believe them anymore. When my mind told me I only needed just the one more cig, I knew it was a lie. When my mind told me I could quit later, I knew it was a lie. And feelings are the same way, they just come. But our actions are in our control. If I suppress the feeling, I'm just procrastinating dealing with it. That was my greatest revelation. Researchers trying to figure out how to change habits by using distraction have got it backwards. The way to change a habit is with pure and utter focus on the feeling that pushes your either toward or away from it (craving or resistance, depending one whether you're trying to stop a habit or obtain one)

I focused on that need to smoke. I sat there with it. I relished in the unfulfilled desire. I swam in that desire. I consumed it. I lived it. I didn't watch TV, I didn't chew some gum, none of that crap. I sat there and focused on that craving and that new sense of control felt so amazing... I couldn't dare ruin it by smoking again. It was like a high all on its own. About a year later, I smoked again and now I'll occasionally smoke with friends but I never relapsed any deeper than a pack a week and even that was a short lived relapse. I love them but I love not being obligated to them even more.

But for me horniness is a whole other ballgame. I started smoking when I was 15. It was not exactly an easily broken habit. But man... my sex drive is like this relentless thunder pounding through me. And I use the same tactics, I focus on the craving. This doesn't mean I see a sweet ass and sit there thinking about everything I want to do with it. That's the opposite, that's feeding the feeling with thoughts which will later be fed by action. Just as with smoking, first comes the craving, then come the thoughts convincing you or coaxing you or increasing the craving, then comes the action to fulfill the craving. To stop the cycle, I would stop at the craving and sit with it, not waiting for it to go away but relishing it and absorbing it.

But I only do this in public when talking to said sweet ass or whatever because in private I have no stronger motivation than the sex drive. And masturbating carries no apparent consequences, and it feels really good. I quit smoking because I told this girl I liked that I would and that gave me the motivation not to smoke the next cigarette, to quit smoking Now rather than Later. I have no motivation not to think about sex so naturally it's all i think about unless I've given myself some proper relief.

(PS I generalized this post for a wider audience but for those who've read my other posts, my paraphilia dictates I'd look at that sweet ass with jealousy rather than desire but for the same effect)

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

I focused on that need to smoke. I sat there with it. I relished in the unfulfilled desire. I swam in that desire. I consumed it. I lived it.

Embracing complete awareness of the craving in an accepting way is an excellent thing to do, but the point is to disassociate it with thoughts that condone it and in effect get rid of them, as you say "stop believing them". Eventually the craving will subside and you'll drift onto other thoughts, in effect, avoiding unhelpful thoughts to preferred outcomes.

Originally Posted by LonelyTurtle

Having foreskin IS like having constant lube, sir. You can't wear it out by overuse.


Also, good luck weakamon.


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Uhm, ehrm... thanks...

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DAY 4(01/04/12): SUCCESS

I feel for you strongamon. =)

One of them is waring black leggings!

They're socks.

Oh, my mistake. One of them is wearing black socks.

Originally Posted by LonelyTurtle

http://thepaperwall.com/wallpapers/girls/big/big_1b17c622afb159e2a70967c6dd018b7071739dda.jpg

I'm not even trying to be funny here, I honestly got emotional the moment I saw this. Oh how I loves me some booty...

Spoiler for picture:

Originally Posted by LonelyTurtle

Having foreskin IS like having constant lube, sir. You can't wear it out by overuse.


Also, good luck weakamon.

Oh god that's so evil.

Originally Posted by LonelyTurtle

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Quoting because he needs to see more of this picture

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Have you ever tried to quit masturbating for an extended period of time? I'm assuming, based on your post, that you aren't addicted to cigarettes, coffee or alcohol or you wouldn't be acting like it's so easy.

We do have the power, it's in us. For this point, I agree with you. We all have enough willpower to abstain from any indulgence. But speaking from personal experience, it's torture.

Actually I'm addicted to cigarettes and drink too much (not physically dependent, but I can't imagine quitting). Coffee was just another example, I like the taste and the act of drinking coffee but it's a poor stimulant in my opinion; I rarely drink it. Quitting smoking, drinking, and coffee for that matter all of course possible, but yeah, it sucks. It really sucks. Never tried to quit jerkin' but it's never been a problem for me.

My point is I know I could quit smoking, just like countless other people have done. I'm no different. Yeah, I haven't quit. But I don't need to prove to myself I could quit by doing so. It's an exercise in self torture like quitting jerking it. I don't really like torturing myself usually.

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Originally Posted by Dianeva

Oh, my mistake. One of them is wearing black socks.

Oh really? *Weakamon searches for the woman with the black socks* Wait a second...

Originally Posted by LonelyTurtle

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Haha, i know that's funny but srsly though:

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DAY 5(01/05/12):SUCCESS

[VOICE RECORDER]
Hello DV, weakamon's back for another update. 5 days have already passed, and I have done an inspection: Blood Pressure: check, Weight: check, Eyesight: check, Reasoning: check. Everything seems to be fine. But, I did encountered this situation that might have ended up the challenge earlier than expected. Last Night, I had a dream. I was inside my bedroom: Using my PC. I was already insane, I can't hold on much longer. So I attempted to go to this "corn" site. But I noticed someone behind me: it was my cousin. Afraid to expose him to the real world, I stopped my attempt. So I just went to DV and surfed the net. At one point of the dream, I started to gain lucidity, I questioned the atmosphere. But the good thing here is that, all of the RCs that I did failed, so I never became lucid. And if there was a chance that I became lucid, I might have went berserk and ended up the challenge. I thank myself for my ignorance... Again, day 5 is over and successful. I hope this continues til next year. Weakamon out...

Cut what off? The images, the thong or your cock?

Originally Posted by Dianeva

Cut what off? The images, the thong or your cock?

LOL, you know what i mean..... The Images

Building upon my first page comment, Weakamon,

Why don't we transform this thread from negative to positive.

Whereas now it is focussed upon prevention, the prevention of vicious masturbation, lets change the focus, to attaining.

That is, attaining the reality of you being an absolute player, who doesn't need to masturbate ferociously.

We need to focus on how to make you have sex with as many people as possible.

If you would provide a few details about your situation in life, we can get started with the projections and plans, work to be done.

Yeah but, the only way we'll know if that approach is successful is if he stops posting forever so he can go get laid forever.

Anyway don't worry about how much you're masturbating. Well, Girls can tell when you masturbate a lot. They can tell and they laugh at you secretely. So there is that. Ever had a girl remove you from her friends list on facebook? That's because she realized you masturbate a lot and she's sickened that you'll masturbate to her beach album from 2010.

Gone six days without and starting the seventh and I gotta say that it's getting easier. Yesterday was pretty bad and the pics in this thread didn't help, but today I haven't had any strong urges.

Perhaps I'm past the worst? If I remember right, I went three weeks without jerking it in the army back in 2008, but then again I didn't have much sexual thoughts nor downtime alone while I was there, so it didn't require that much self-control.

BTW, no wet dreams or anything. Kind of disappointing, it sounds like fun. Perhaps they'll come eventually.

When I was looking around for any research earlier in the thread, one urologist suggested that if you want to know how often you "should be" cleaning your pipes, wait until you've had two wet dreams. The duration between the two is how often you "need" to ejaculate.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Building upon my first page comment, Weakamon,

Why don't we transform this thread from negative to positive.

Whereas now it is focussed upon prevention, the prevention of vicious masturbation, lets change the focus, to attaining.

That is, attaining the reality of you being an absolute player, who doesn't need to masturbate ferociously.

We need to focus on how to make you have sex with as many people as possible.

If you would provide a few details about your situation in life, we can get started with the projections and plans, work to be done.

Ehrm, no thanks

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DAY 6(01/07/12): SUCCESS

[Recorder]
Weakamon here. On Jan 06, i had a lot of visions, visions about bars, strippers, and butt cracks. I tried my best to remove it off my head. But alas, it stayed. So as the day went on, I struggled to ignore such mental images and continue what i'm supposed to do. I expect this pressure to become more intense in the next few days. Also, there are no signs of nocturnal emissions yet. Weakamon out...