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      Choline without Galamantine

      Can choline alone help me to lucid dream? I'm trying to find the cheapest pills and galamantine seems quite expensive.

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      Yuschak claims that high doses of Alpha-GPC (900mg and up) alone can induce LDs.

      The absolute cheapest is probably melatonin, just a few dollars for a couple hundred mg, and just a few mg of melatonin can help produce REM rebound for more vivid and longer dreams in the later morning.
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      It's always hard to tell how much impact any given supplement has, because most of them only offer a tiny little boost to your chances -- they are no substitute for real techniques. That said, I've had good results with Alpha-GPC, even used on its own without galantamine.
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      I can second the recommendation for Alpha-GPC. I have had lucid dreams 2/3 times I have taken it without galatamine. Yuschak says 900-1200mg can trigger lucidity. I have had it work at both doses. He claims the 1200 mg dose is preferable if one is not taking galantamine with it.
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