Thread: For all those struggling to have a lucid dream...

It's brilliant to see that people are progressing so well in some way or another! I only remembered one dream fron last night, I was opening christmas presents with my girlfriend and brother and one of the presents said "Tim" on it, I don't know anyone called Tim...

I also think I may have had a lucid, I remember waking up at 3am. This only ever happens to me when I have a lucid dream. Either that or it's a false awakening I'm remembering, whichever it is it's a huge step in the right direction which makes me happy

Keep trying guys, we're all in the same boat here and we'll do it together! No dreamer gets left behind in this challenge!

The day before yesterday I remembered no dreams. Yesterday, I decided to put an alarm on 4.5 hours after sleep, and then every 90 mins following on. I remembered 3 dreams! I'm making progress, and hopefully this progress can result in a lucid tonight!

Night 3
I was opening christmas presents with my girlfriend and my brother. Strange thing was though that one of the presents said "Tim" on it... I don't know anyone called Tim

Note:
Did I have a lucid dream? I remember waking up at 3am and this only ever happens after I've had a lucid dream. Or it could have been a false awakening, either way it means I'm getting closer and closer to that lucid dream

Night 4
Exciting news! I went to bed at around midnight and thought I'd do mild whilst meditating. Now I meditate with pink noise in the background and usually in sleep paralysis because I find it very therapeutic. So whilst I was doing this I fell very deeply into Sleep Paralysis and thought why not try to WILD?
I've always been told to never try it when I go to bed but I thought I could learn from the experience 10 minutes in I no longer had control of my breathing. My heart was racing. I could feel my body rapidly going through hot and cold flushes. Then I couldn't feel my body any more, through my eyes I could see the outlines of creepy faces forming and whirl around my head. After just a few minutes this all became too much for me even though I expected this. I sat bolt upright in bed, eyes wide open breathing heavily and my heart racing. It was over.
Surprisingly I must have gotten some kind of adrenaline rush from it or just more questions for something I'd never felt before. So I tried again, I thought I may as well get used to it while I have the chance.

The second attempt was a bit smoother to get in to, because I was already pretty close to sleep paralysis from when I woke up, it didn't take long for me to get to the stage before the hallucinations. I don't know what had changed but the hallucinations were much more vivid and scary which woke me up once again. I then decided that I would roll over and get to sleep since it was 12.30am.

I woke up to my alarm at 4am, ready for my WBTB. Following the instruction of those in the WBTB motivation forum I got up to turn off my alarm on the other side of my room. Shortly after I went to the bathroom before getting back into bed. I did MILD and tried to WILD again since it was the more recommended time. Strangely enough I found it really uncomfortable and after about 2 minutes I gave up.

Woke up at 8.15am with no dreams remembered and come to think of it I'd had no dreams when I woke up at 4 either otherwise I would have written them down. This means one of two things:
1) I tried too hard and lost it
2) I'd actually had a lucid dream on night 3!

Unfortunately with no way to prove this it goes unmarked on my LD record. Hope everybody else is doing just as well in this challenge! I also believe WishfulThinker has some news to share with you all later

~DJ

First of all, djpatch999, please READ THE STICKY ON SP IN THE WILD SUBFORUM. I put that in all caps because it's crucially important that you lose your misunderstandings of WILD if you want to succeed.

Racing heart is not, I repeat, NOT, part of WILD. It happens when newbies try to "induce SP" (which is impossible and nonsensical) and they end up hyperventilating. If you experience racing heart, you are nowhere near a lucid dream.

I agree with cmind. The first time I WILDed I did so after about 20 failed attempts of trying to go into SP. I was just laying in bed and my conscious wouldn't go to sleep. It was on accident, but the dream appeared in front of me. I looked more up about WILD after that and I have been able to do it again and almost did it a third time. Your heart racing is a bad sign because you can't go to sleep like that, and WILDing is going to sleep without losing consciousness.

I never said it was part of WILD, I was just saying what I experienced because I thought it would be of interest to you all I know what is to be expected of the WILD technique and as a dreamer who is new to WILD there's bound to be a few things different to that of an experienced WILDer. I can go into sp when I want, you are right it cannot be induced normally but I can get into it whenever I like, I just need to stay still for long enough. I didn't hyperventilate either, I remained calm as did my breathing until the end. What I meant by that was that my subconscious was controlling it, I did not hyperventilate by choice. I was not consciously controlling the pace of my breathing. I know I was close to a lucid dream because if you read further on I go on to describe the hallucinogenic images I saw behind closed eyes, things were beginning to form into a dream scene. That is how I know I was close because I believe the next step in almost all WILD tutorials is to transition through into these newly formed dream images. I could have stepped into it if I'd waited a bit longer, I couldn't feel my heart racing at this point nor my heavy breathing. I was conscious but it would be a pain to have controlled my breathing as well when I could have just let my subconscious do it for me

Either way, with time I can only get better The tutorials are guidelines, not rules is what I have always been told

This is true. There is no two roads that look the same on the path to becoming a full fledged oneironaut.

I do indeed have some interesting developments.

I was persuaded into trying to WILD and the result can be found here - Saturday 1st December - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views - for all those interested.

I'm very tempted to try it again later this evening as it's been a while since I last took any medication so the results may be just as intriguing.

I attempted to WILD again tonight and this is the result of my second experiment - Another WILD attempt - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views -

Unfortunately last night I got hardly any sleep so no dreams recalled.

Wishful thinker! just read your DJ entries. You don't need SP to get into a WILD, but it seems like you are still getting close to WILD. So keep it up. Keep up confidence and go for it!

-Night 5-

No dreams remembered, it seems my recall has gone down the drain! Couldn't be at a worse time! No matter, I'll get it back tonight

I remembered one dream when I woke up for the day, but I had woken up several times during the night but remembered no dreams then. But at least my recall seems to be improving slightly.

For anyone who's been paying attention to my WILD attempts, massive breakthrough - First Successful WILD attempt! - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views and possibly another one to share with you tomorrow...

I'm in, I always liked the idea of having other people who are attempting the same goal as you, as it gives me more motivation to achieve the goal. Although, I have already have had a lucid dream before, for me it will be more about having a more clarified and a higher awareness lucid dream. Thanks for creating a great introduction to dream views with this cool thread!

Looks like Katie (wishful thinker) got second!

Weeelll, wasted a weekend. :V So stressed lately, recall is in the toilet, whoopee. Glad to see people getting results at least.

You can do it taffy. Gotta have confidence.

Where I'm trying to get is the point where I can have some amount of control. I've never really tried to exert much control before, but the frequency of lucids has been increasing since I've been on here and I figure it's only a matter of time before I actually steer one of them in a different direction.

What happens is that I'll have that aha moment and know it's a dream, but by that moment the dream is well established and I will continue on with wherever it was going, just with the realization that I'm dreaming. I have small amounts of control, like the one recently where I was bowling and willing the pins to fall down, but I have yet to successfully change the direction it's going. I thought I was going to the other night when I remembered the task of the month, but then I remembered that I had one to bed after midnight and it was no longer November.

It's morning I had a surprise one that I didn't expect. I have to get out of bed by 8:00 on Sundays, so I set the alarm for 7:30 and hit the snooze a couple times. The alarm went off and I reached over and hit the snooze and fell right back asleep and was dreaming almost instantly. I became lucid pretty fast, but was disappointed because I knew that I had hit the snooze and I only had about 9 minutes left depending on how long I had taken to drift off and I had less than that because I woke up pretty soon thereafter when the alarm went off again. I hit the snooze again and went right away into a fairly vivid non lucid that seemed to last longer than the ten more minutes I slept.

I feel that I'm on the verge of taking this thing to another level. A lot of this does seem to be a state of mind thing, so let's hope we all keep the right state of mind and find the next level tonight, whatever that level is.

Wishfulthinker: Congratulations on your lucid (WILD as well?!). It sounds like a fun dream, you did a lot of things someone just starting out would struggle with! You've won yourself 100 points which will be transferred to you within the next few hours (providing that area of the forum remains un-broken )

TheObserver: Welcome and thank you for the interest! Unfortunately tonight (for me and a few others depending on time differences) is the last night of the challenge. I would love to set up another 1 week challenge though, if you're willing to wait that is? Nevertheless I can't stop you from joining in on the last one or two nights, enjoy yourself

Taffy: Come on, you can do it!! Maybe recall your day before you sleep, or meditate a bit? Tell yourself you will remember your dreams, it worked for me! In fact we were in the same boat over the weekend, I couldn't remember a thing! Keep trying, you'll get there! Tonight is the night your recall will return!

CharlesD: It sounds like your getting there! To help exert control over your dreams try to drop to the floor and touch the ground. Feel how real and solid it feels. What can you hear? What can you see? This should stabilise you enough for some amount of control at least. To take it a step further you could always try and shout "I have control of this dream!" Dream control takes some getting used to, well it did for me anyway. So take your time, at least you've got the hang of getting lucid

Santoryu: You are not forgotten! Come on we can do this together! I've noticed your flag says England which means we're in the same timezone It's the last night tonight and you're going to have a lucid so amazing it could easily match up to Wishfulthinkers WILD!

Note: No more points up for grabs doesn't stop you trying though!

Reply Button: Why wont you work already? Seriously this took me 15 minutes to write out, it would have been so much easier if you bothered to work! ...I'm not talking to a button...

nicromno: Not heard from you in a while, has this thread helped you gain any lucids?

Night 6
Okay so I've been having issues with recall recently (maybe down to an LD I don't know) and last night was no exception. I remembered nothing except me actually saying to myself in a dream "I must remember this dream!". How on earth did I not realise I was dreaming or remember anything else about the dream? Huge facepalm, silly DJ. Last night tonight so I'll have my LD then

Well, baby steps I guess. Sometime in the wee hours I went lucid in a fairly routine dream, no major signs to trigger it. All I remember of the dream before that point was that I was with a group of people and we were headed somewhere that seemed kind of important. Then out of the blue I knew I was dreaming, so I decided I wanted to go home. I turned around and there was a Sprinter van sitting there and I hopped and proceeded to start driving toward home. I was on some unrecognizable road but I imagined that I would come upon a familiar road and sure enough, the next intersection was a road close to my house. Then things got hazy and stupid, road names changing and what not, and I woke up. Must have been the end of a REM period because it was about 5 hours after I had gone to bed. I had a couple more dreams that I remember, but non lucid. The thing was, this time I just didn't continue with whatever plot was happening. I decided I was going to do something different, although I didn't really get anywhere with that.

Decided to try and LD last night and actually succeeded(2nd LD)! So with new found confidence I want to sign up to this challenge(if not too late lol)! Day 1 starts tonight!

DreamWanderer: Sure you can join but for most of us tonight is the last night of the challenge. Don't worry I was going to post another 1 week challenge up within the next few days! But it's cool if you want to do it on your own, I think it will help you at least a little

Well I will participate in the next one! And hell there is still one day! =P