Thread: Why is WILDING considered so difficult?

I don't get why people say WILD is so "elusive" and "difficult" to do. Granted, I haven't succeeded in WILDing because of all the noisy toddlers abound in my house, but the concept doesn't seem very hard at all. I mean... all you do, apparently, is focus until you induce SP on yourself. I've actually succeeded in doing that a few times before, but I'm so scared of SP that I forced myself out of it before the dream started, but it was so easy to accomplish that I'm having trouble believing that the concept is that hard to do. It is a bit hard in that you have to have absolute focus, but once you have that down, what's so hard about WILDing?

Well some people have a much easier time wilding than others. I have never been in SP, But I can wild into a dream scene pretty easy, most of the time.
But I always wake up after a moment, and I never count it as an actual Lucid Dream. Some people can't do it at all. I think the people that can do it real well, are pretty rare. Maybe you are one of the fortunate few.

Well the challange is if your lucky enough to get to that HI stage you usualy have to wait for like 30 min to an hour and if you don't get it you've wasted your time, inless ofcourse your trying a visual wild in which case it would improve the more you practice, basicly you got to get lucky in the beginning and hope you can memerize the feeling when you get there and maybe after 100 trys or so you can wild in under 10 min in the morning when your half awake anytime.

Yes, in the morning, excellent time.

For me, the difficulty lies in the balancing of attention and relaxation. In the past 2 or so years, have been able to WILD about 3 times, one of them being pure luck, another one being 100% success, and the last time I got to see my dream hands but couldn't walk into the dream.

The difficulty for beginners also lie in not knowing exactly what to expect. To add to the difficulty, once you start getting into deep sleep, everything gets a little hazy in terms of what exactly is going on. When I first start seeing/hearing HIs, I get confused as to whether I'm really in the HI phase, or if my mind is playing tricks on me.

To sum up, the great challenge is that everything must go very smoothly. If you lose distraction, you fall asleep. If you get too excited, you wake up. If it takes too long, you get frustrated which hinders the success even further.

Wait, so you've never been able to do it AXB?
Oh, but it's not that hard.
Alright.

Originally Posted by LucidDreamGod

Well the challange is if your lucky enough to get to that HI stage you usualy have to wait for like 30 min to an hour and if you don't get it you've wasted your time,

I would disagree that a failed attempt at a WILD is a waste of time, since for me anyway, I seem to have a better chance at a DILD even after failure.

Originally Posted by Deegan

I would disagree that a failed attempt at a WILD is a waste of time, since for me anyway, I seem to have a better chance at a DILD even after failure.

I agree with Deegan.. and even if you don't have a DILD, hopefully you learn something from a failure that can help you to finally succeed.
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ABX, I think if you tried it you'd discover it's harder than you thought.

Originally Posted by Clairity

I agree with Deegan.. and even if you don't have a DILD, hopefully you learn something from a failure that can help you to finally succeed.
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Especially if you write down WBTB times. I found out that I can't stay up for more than fifteen minutes without becoming restless. Even if I still can't WILD, this knowledge is helpful.

Richter: ILU. So inspirational. Makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the info!

Everyone's said it already. It takes focus, willpower, determination, patience... but also relaxation and somnolence. You have to focus your mind like a laser on staying awake while letting the body fall asleep, and that's damn difficult for a human being who's used to body and mind being awake and asleep in tandem, not separated. When I try to WILD (1-3 times a week) one of two things happens rather reliably: 1) I fall asleep within a few minutes because I'm too tired to keep focused, or 2) I stay awake indefinitely, counting to 1000 or visualizing or just being meditatively mindful. This is like asking someone to sleepwalk on cue (body awake, mind asleep; the total opposite of a lucid) and wondering why they're having trouble with it. It's just an inherently abnormal state for a person to be in, and it takes tough times and lots of entrainment to get it to work dependably.

WILD is nto hard to do, it's hard to teach




It involves a right mindset, and it's hard to explain THAT to someone

the only difficulty i have is that my attention span while under the covers is short, and my mind wanders!

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Well partly because to WILD successfully you have to be relaxed enough to let your body fall asleep but awake enough to keep consious.

If you're concentrating on trying to succeed in a WILD or the thinking about the possibility of getting lucid then I'm often too excited to WILD properly.

Also, getting into a WILD for a lot of people especially beginners is difficult because we often rely on being in our REM period, which to time is quite tricky.

And as you mentioned yourself, YOU find WILDing difficult since you haven't been able to set up the right conditions for you to succeed, like many of us.

WILDs have so many variables...

(as you can see, people implying that WILDing is very simple is a very touchy subject for some of us)