Thread: stop smoking and start dreaming

I just had a WILD last night without sleeping first, after a toke earlier in the day. I wasn't high when I wen't to sleep, but I could feel the relaxing effects of the THC when I went into paralysis. I think marijuana can help some people with WILDing, it makes the transition a lot smoother. (at least for me)

Originally Posted by linxx

ahhhh i would have to say unfortunately that my 2 favorite things, weed and dreaming, definitely contradict eachother.

Same for me.... i started out as a very good lucid dreamer, and eventually started smoking pot everyday, which drastically effected my dream recall. And i am unable to control them as well since smoking pot everyday..... I find that other plants do increase dream recall, and lucidity tho in a positive way. These plants being; Morning glory (lsa) Salvia divinorum (dream sage), and psilocybin mushrooms.

I just read a study that says delta->>>>8<<<< THC makes the REM stage of sleep longer. I haven't got time to post right now properly but yeah go search on google if you're interested. Getting a strain high in Delta-8-THC will help you dream while still being able to get stoned. If you have problems with this go check it out. Cheers.

I started smoking again a couple weeks ago, but I've still been having a shiz-load of dreams. I just have been having a harder time recalling them.

Oke, as some of you might know, I'm from the netherlands wich means I smoke the best Haze everyday(and now).
I think your dreams wont change that much by smoking, but yout recall will!.
I dont smoke 3 ours before I go to bed, then my dreams and night will be just fine..
and when you have party, lucid a different time! or try WILD smoking does not come in the way of that trust me

Jupiler, can you try smoking a strain with high delta 8? If you can figur eout which ones have that.... Then try one with barely any and compare?
Would be good if you can.

Have been a hash smoker for years, I really want to quit.

I have allways had great dream recall, therefore the pot doesnt affect that bit too much. But I LD far less than when I take a break for a while.

Having said that, because it affects short term memory, Ive usually forgotten my dreams after a month or so. This results in occassional bouts of 'de je vue' where for a moment, I feel I have been here before, ,but then I remember an intense dream ,that I had months earlier.

One of the reasons I like to have a smoke before bed is to 'surf hypnogoga' that bit as your just slipping into sleep. You see all those mellow colours and feel so comfy. I like to ride it ,like a wave for about half an hour, letting myself go and then pulling myself back.

Back on topic, I have read that the 'devils rose' as I have heard it called, does affect LD big time. And also that THC stays in your body for about 30 days. So when I stop, I expect I will have to wait that long to see any increase of LD's

THC suppresses REM, and when you stop smoking (pot) you experience the well known Rebound Effect... lots of vivid dreams...

Yeah the rebound effects sounds like it happens to almost anyone who's dreams are suppressed by smoking Cannabis. Sephiad, you should see increased dreams the night you quit, as long as you don't smoke that day; otherwise, the day after. Cannabis compounds only stay in your body for 30 days or so, not your brain, so that won't effect your dreams at all.

Originally Posted by tommo

Sephiad, you should see increased dreams the night you quit, Cannabis compounds only stay in your body for 30 days or so, not your brain, .

Thanks Tommo, that makes sense. My new job has meant I have had to give up the weed and I'v been pot free for about three or four weeks now. The rebound effect as you call it is very evident. I'm getting four or five LD's a week now, allthough I think part of the reason is my renewed determination to perform RC's.

I miss the pot sometimes, but I wouldnt get to work on time if I started it again. As much as I love the efects, I'm just not suited to weed.

All things considered, I'm glad I kicked.

Originally Posted by Sephiad

Thanks Tommo, that makes sense. My new job has meant I have had to give up the weed and I'v been pot free for about three or four weeks now. The rebound effect as you call it is very evident. I'm getting four or five LD's a week now, allthough I think part of the reason is my renewed determination to perform RC's.

I miss the pot sometimes, but I wouldnt get to work on time if I started it again. As much as I love the efects, I'm just not suited to weed.

All things considered, I'm glad I kicked.

Dude, I think that is best. You seem to have the same reaction to pot as I do. You need to replace pot with something and I too picked lucid dreaming. I too am not suited for weed. Hope everything is working out man. Rock out brother.

EDIT: You may also want to check out the gym and meditation for other ways to spend your time. It has helped me out significantly. I think half of my lucid dreams have been in the past two months and I have been doing them for a little over a year now.

Originally Posted by Sephiad

Thanks Tommo, that makes sense. My new job has meant I have had to give up the weed and I'v been pot free for about three or four weeks now. The rebound effect as you call it is very evident. I'm getting four or five LD's a week now, allthough I think part of the reason is my renewed determination to perform RC's.

I miss the pot sometimes, but I wouldnt get to work on time if I started it again. As much as I love the efects, I'm just not suited to weed.

All things considered, I'm glad I kicked.

Wow, that's good. I'm happy for you.
Maybe it's not that you're not suited for weed, but more, your job doesn't go well with you smoking weed. haha lol, excuse me, I just love Cannabis.
I agree with tranquility, meditation can be good also. In fact, studies have shown that meditation puts your brain in the exact same state that smoking Cannabis does (Alpha and Theta simultaneously, and one study has shown Gamma waves also). So if you ever feel like smoking again you can just meditate.

Originally Posted by tranquilitybytrey

Dude, I think that is best. You seem to have the same reaction to pot as I do.

Hope everything is working out man. Rock out brother.

You may also want to check out the gym and meditation

Originally Posted by tommo

Wow, that's good. I'm happy for you.
Maybe it's not that you're not suited for weed, but more, your job doesn't go well with you smoking weed. haha lol, excuse me, I just love Cannabis.

studies have shown that meditation puts your brain in the exact same state that smoking Cannabis does (Alpha and Theta simultaneously, and one study has shown Gamma waves also).

Thanks for all the good advice guys. Yes, I have tried meditation but dont have enough self discipline just to let what happens happen. I always get too excited, thats why I carnt WILD (well managed it once to get back to dream I had woken up from). I used to do those self hypnosis tapes, they were very effective at first but stopped working after a while. I think that they are both different sides of the same coin.

I do miss a good smoke to end the day. But unfortunatley, I wouldnt be able to just stop at one, I have to get completely blasted. (You know what I'm talking about)

Thanks again guys

Dude, LDs make drugs look like kiddie toys.

Dream-trippin iz da shiz

I disagree, they both have their high (pun intended) points.
Although I remember tripping in dreams and it's pretty sweet lol

Weed-trip? learn something? I doubt it, and I smoke whenever I feel the urge.

And I don't particulary think that this fact has really made much of an impact at all on my limited LD experiances. On the contrary, after a sustained period of heavy use, and then stopping altogether. I found that my dreams would at least seem 6-8 times more vivid and memorable than normal throughout the entire first week.

Originally Posted by Animatic

Weed-trip? learn something? I doubt it, and I smoke whenever I feel the urge.

And I don't particulary think that this fact has really made much of an impact at all on my limited LD experiances. On the contrary, after a sustained period of heavy use, and then stopping altogether. I found that my dreams would at least seem 6-8 times more vivid and memorable than normal throughout the entire first week.

First post ha? .... The vividness is due to the "Rebound Effect"

Originally Posted by Bolo

First post ha? .... The vividness is due to the "Rebound Effect"

Well there you go, you lot are useful then.
didn't know it had a name

Originally Posted by Animatic

Well there you go, you lot are useful then.
didn't know it had a name

We were JUST talking about it lol
And I don't know what you mean when you said "weed-trip? learn something? I doubt it" What does that mean?

what if you smoke weed in your dreams?

Originally Posted by Captain Frapo

what if you smoke weed in your dreams?

My experience with this is that sometimes it doesn't work well, and at other times I get a Super High ! and sometimes I have a high in a normal dream and when I can't remember where I smoked it I become lucid

For me dream recall has a lot to do with how vivid my dreams were. A night of vivid dreams is definitely easier to remember than one withouth many vivid, interesting dreams. Smoking before bed can give you some very vivid, crazy dreams or it can knock you out until the sun comes up. B6 has been known to increase "abstract, vivid" dreams as well as awareness in these dreams so that's always something to try too. And I agree, dream tripping can make some drugs look like kiddie toys, specifically lucid dream tripping because you're fully conscious AND you're tripping unlike normal dreams when your mind isn't really "there" but more just watching. I'd say that for those of you who really enjoy smoking and LDing but can't remember your dreams, try going on a 1 month tolerance break filled with exercise and meditation (to keep you high) and seeing how your LDs are in the 3rd or 4th week. It's tougher than it sounds if you smoke often but it's a good experiment and when you come back you'll be able to get very high off small amounts, which is great if you have a high tolerance.

Smoking weed during lucid dreams, now that is the way to go! Giving up weed didn't have to be the solution though. I smoke everyday and I dream out the ass. Of course if that is what you want to do, more power to you!

Just tried this for the first time on purpose.
I smoked weed about an hour before bed. Had the most intense, long dream and crazy ass dream too. Didn't make a LOT of sense, but it did.
And the next night I didn't smoke and barely dreamed. Couldn't remember any anyway, and tonight I have smoked again, few hours before bed probably dunno yet. And might smoke a bit more later. Tomorrow I'll you what happens!