Thread: The Way to End Suffering

Originally Posted by Mario92

You people are arguing the impossible. I'll believe it when I see it. But seriously, what's so bad about just living out life?........Take the good with the bad and have fun.

First you say that happiness is boring making it IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate suffering, because even being happy is suffering. (nice circular argument there)

Next you suggest that to eliminate suffering is to deny living life. . . . . . A conclusion you made all entirely and independently on your own having nothing to do with what any of us said here.

Thankfully, it ain't true! To eliminate suffering means to ENJOY LIFE ! And all those little (superficial) things that make people angry and pissy at each other, it's no big deal. Hey things happen, laugh, get on with your day and be happy. The very same people who teach that YOU CAN eliminate suffering also teach, among other concepts: have a sense of humor, and don't take yourself or life too seriously! (something teenagers do too often "OH NO MY BOYFRIEND DUMPED ME I SHOULD COMMIT SUICIDE")

Anyways....uhh......I don't think you understand spirituality in context to suffering.

Why invest all this effort into some sort of hypothetical spiritual enlightenment?

You make eliminating suffering sound like some END GOAL. Something you obtain at death, like entering a magical place called heaven. That's not true. It's a day to day, moment to moment journey. Where everyday you have the potential to be happier than yesterday. Your time won't be wasted, but fulfilling and satisfying. Enlightenment doesn't end, it's not a goal, or a level. It's never ending nonstop personal evolution.

We were enlightened when we first discovered fire. And we were even more enlightened when we discovered music to dance around the fire with!

PS. A person is considered enlightened once they have reached a point of no-return