Thread: Smoke weed? Post in here.

Marijuana doesn't kill people - prohibition does.

"It's not a war on drugs - it's a war against our personal freedoms"

Interestingly, this happens to be the song I'm listening to right now (Tool - 3rd eye).

A dust particle is the accelerant through which all conscious beings derive meaning.

I belong to a subculture of Learymen who frequent emergency rooms late into the night. We are searching for a particular particle, one that owes its entire existence to the very fact that we are indeed searching for it. This particle is unlike any that have naturally come before or have been artificially created after its discovery, and because of this unique aspect there are men like me who have fought to expose its existence since time was first conceptualized in a space no larger than the smallest thought.

I walk among the extraordinary everyday as if I were one myself, yet I can no more tell the difference between good and evil than I can the difference between a single tear from my eye and the sheets of sweat from my brow.

Hippies: How the f_ck do they work?!?

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Marijuana is a cancer in society. It's killing thousands a year, millions worldwide.

Due to the fact that its illegal, and thus funding gang violence.

Lulz, just think, if they were to legalize it, all that gang funding goes away. Just like it did when prohibition ended. Removing the legal supply from a high demand product FORCES people to get it illegally, it doesn't stop them from demanding it and thus, getting it.

And actually, very little weed comes from gangs anymore (at least not in the US) it comes from legal farms who grow a little extra on the side for illegal distrubution.

Anyone ever stopped at a stop sign and waited for it to turn green? And they say driving while high isn't dangerous.

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Lulz, just think, if they were to legalize it, all that gang funding goes away. Just like it did when prohibition ended. Removing the legal supply from a high demand product FORCES people to get it illegally, it doesn't stop them from demanding it and thus, getting it.

And actually, very little weed comes from gangs anymore (at least not in the US) it comes from legal farms who grow a little extra on the side for illegal distrubution.

Yeah the legal marijuana growers have been the greatest impediment to gang violence in history. If opium and heroin were legalized, it would decimate Al Qaeda. If cocaine and marijuana were legalized, it would decimate the latino crime syndicates.

And this idea that people would go crazy and start using way more is absolutely ridiculous. Every single drop of evidence shows the opposite. It shows people get their fix. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not. It should be a health issue. Go after the user by going after their healthcare. Go after the dealer by removing their market.

Of course it can't become a health issue until health care is socialized

Two birds with one stone Omnis. Every conservative on here wants to kill you now

^ I assume it started off as sarcasm, but then progressed into whatever the hell that is.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Yeah the legal marijuana growers have been the greatest impediment to gang violence in history. If opium and heroin were legalized, it would decimate Al Qaeda. If cocaine and marijuana were legalized, it would decimate the latino crime syndicates.

And this idea that people would go crazy and start using way more is absolutely ridiculous. Every single drop of evidence shows the opposite. It shows people get their fix. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not. It should be a health issue. Go after the user by going after their healthcare. Go after the dealer by removing their market.

Of course it can't become a health issue until health care is socialized

Yeah, that's true, but it's not really a health issue, there are plenty of healthy ways to use it. I have a vaporizer and I make edibles all the time. I love the argument that the right wing always comes up with: if we legalize pot it will add to our already over allocated health system, which outweighs any tax gains from it. When in reality, any health problems cause my pot use are going to be there anyway because the laws aren't stopping anyone from using it. And it's not like tobacco, I know lots of people in their 50s and 60 who started smoking pot when they were teens and they have no problems, I also know people who started smoking tobacco at that age and they do have problems. And pot isn't addictive so it's not used by the pack a day. A tobacco smoker probably smokes more cigarettes in a month than I have smoked joints in my life. It's actually easier for high school kids to get pot than it is alcohol, for the single reason that it is illegal. Alcohol distributors won't sell to minors, because pot dealers face the same punishment for selling to me and a 15 year old kid, he makes no distinction, he's breaking the law either way so who cares?

Originally Posted by Darkmatters

Marijuana doesn't kill people - prohibition does.

"It's not a war on drugs - it's a war against our personal freedoms"

Interestingly, this happens to be the song I'm listening to right now (Tool - 3rd eye).

I don't know why it wouldn't let me like this post, but like!

Originally Posted by VexedVagabond

I don't know why it wouldn't let me like this post, but like!

Usually that only happens with the post right above you, and only if it just came up seconds ago. I find if I refresh the page the like button shows up. (hint hint )

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Yeah, that's true, but it's not really a health issue, there are plenty of healthy ways to use it. I have a vaporizer and I make edibles all the time. I love the argument that the right wing always comes up with: if we legalize pot it will add to our already over allocated health system, which outweighs any tax gains from it. When in reality, any health problems cause my pot use are going to be there anyway because the laws aren't stopping anyone from using it. And it's not like tobacco, I know lots of people in their 50s and 60 who started smoking pot when they were teens and they have no problems, I also know people who started smoking tobacco at that age and they do have problems. And pot isn't addictive so it's not used by the pack a day. A tobacco smoker probably smokes more cigarettes in a month than I have smoked joints in my life. It's actually easier for high school kids to get pot than it is alcohol, for the single reason that it is illegal. Alcohol distributors won't sell to minors, because pot dealers face the same punishment for selling to me and a 15 year old kid, he makes no distinction, he's breaking the law either way so who cares?

Either way the two arguments are weighed against each other. Private health insurance and Drug Prohibition are used to refute the reform movement of each other. To fight this issue, we have to take on both problems.

Originally Posted by nina

This is what I think about weed, and why people shouldn't smoke everyday.

To be fair, you don't need weed to be a lazy, nonproductive procrastinator and watch your life pass you by. They should do a PSA about internet addiction.

Weed gives me superpowers. I don't know what you guys have been doing with it, but I've been building kingdoms and smashing demons.

Ooooooomyyygoddddd!!!!!! Lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!porweogewog

I rolled a joint this morning (I can roll decent ones now =D) because I was planning on getting fried before class but I ended up forgetting it at home since I was in a rush. Now I'm sitting here browsing DV in my school's library because I couldn't manage to find any bud. This is college ffs, how is it that no one here has even a nickel on them? Class starts in like 20 minutes, I might just head over to the nearby highschool and see if I can buy some off a couple kids. =/

I just find it funny how most people will jump on weed being evil and making people lazy stupid and moronic. Its not weed that does that, its human nature to be lazy, stupid and moronic... Its actually been proven that sweet mary jane does make you a lil dumber and sluggish... But its also been proven that after 28 days of being sober, your back to normal.

Now could you say the same for alcohol?

In fact, how many deaths per year are alcohol related deaths.... Liver disease, drunk driving, drunk accidents and fights etc.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SOMEONE FIGHTING WHILE STONED!? It just doesn't happen man.

“They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.” .... Bill Hicks.

Originally Posted by nito89

I just find it funny how most people will jump on weed being evil and making people lazy stupid and moronic. Its not weed that does that, its human nature to be lazy, stupid and moronic... Its actually been proven that sweet mary jane does make you a lil dumber and sluggish... But its also been proven that after 28 days of being sober, your back to normal.

Now could you say the same for alcohol?

In fact, how many deaths per year are alcohol related deaths.... Liver disease, drunk driving, drunk accidents and fights etc.

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SOMEONE FIGHTING WHILE STONED!? It just doesn't happen man.

“They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference.” .... Bill Hicks.

Doesn't even take 28 days.

The danger of marijuana, to me, is equivalent to the dangers presented by unhealthy food, internet and television. People don't fuck their lives up with marijuana. They lose the daily battles. They just don't get as far in life as people who control their dependency.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

The danger of marijuana, to me, is equivalent to the dangers presented by unhealthy food, internet and television. People don't fuck their lives up with marijuana. They lose the daily battles. They just don't get as far in life as people who control their dependency.

What do you define as a "daily battle"
I have a huge group of friends, i work and earn a decent amount of money. I live with two of my best friends. I'm able to take a step back from every situation and analyse it.... How am i losing?

I honestly dont think there is such a thing as "people who control their dependency"

Originally Posted by nito89

What do you define as a "daily battle"
I have a huge group of friends, i work and earn a decent amount of money. I live with two of my best friends. I'm able to take a step back from every situation and analyse it.... How am i losing?

I honestly dont think there is such a thing as "people who control their dependency"

Then replace the word dependency with whatever word makes that phrase sound more truthful. Habit. Whatever. If you ever were dependent on something you'd understand how it acts as an enabler to be lazy. It does not make you lazier per se, it enables laziness. If one is already prone to procrastination and they start smoking pot, they've loaded the gun that says "I ain't doing shit today." the same with turning on the TV or stuffing processed crap into your face.

Not all of us are perfect, some of us need to improve in order to become something capable of achieving our dreams. For instance, my dream is really, really ambitious. It requires I work at it every day. It requires I work hard and don't take any needless breaks. I have a skill, I exercise this skill. When I procrastinate (popping onto DV for some debating, for instance) I am losing the battle between me and what I've set for myself to do. When I smoke weed before I've gotten my shit done for the day, the same thing happens.

That's what I mean by the Daily Battle. You won't even notice it if you only intend to get by in life. There's no train-wreck rock-bottom incident for pot-heads. They just don't amount to what they could have because every single day that they choose pot over their dream is a piece of ground they give to failure.

I'm wibbles!!!!