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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaught View Post
      Obama would be a HUGE mistake.
      Give me some quick reasons why. I need to hear 'em.

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      Austria is cold - it's like minus 16 here at the moment, with lots of snow

      I love it, I am never going home again!!! Anyone want to come join me and party? :d

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      Quote Originally Posted by Siиdяed View Post
      02:30 AM. I'm going hardcore History homework.
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      It's 9:54 and I need to be studying for History test. :p
      I spent my last monday studying History from midnight to 6AM. And not I ain't kidding. Just had to finish it in time xD
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      I wish I still had history. Also, I was told that creativity has no place in my class called "litterature and imagination".

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      I love History, in fact I have it in 5 mins.

      Oh and the teachers hawt.

      But I love History in basic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      Political rallies are funny, always have these brainwashed people going crazy in the background (about politics, no less), gotta love public speaking ...

      Hell of a weapon.
      yup, obama is just another government pawn, hes realllllly good at fooling people into his whole 'change' crap, i don't buy it, but alot of weak-minded fools do unfortunately, even more weak minded people support mccain or chucknorrisabee, or GAH billary!

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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      yup, obama is just another government pawn, hes realllllly good at fooling people into his whole 'change' crap, i don't buy it, but alot of weak-minded fools do unfortunately, even more weak minded people support mccain or chucknorrisabee, or GAH billary!

      Damn Billary!

      Okay how many times do I need to ask for some good reasons to not support Obama? Gimme gimme! If you say he's a pawn, I need to hear why.

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      Oh no! Siиy was on last night and I didn't even say "hi" now I'm a bad bad girl...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Damn Billary!

      Okay how many times do I need to ask for some good reasons to not support Obama? Gimme gimme! If you say he's a pawn, I need to hear why.
      Well, he black. Go old school style and judge people based on their skin color. Racist.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      Well, he black. Go old school style and judge people based on their skin color. Racist.
      Cracker.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      Cracker.
      I have always wondered why nobody cares if the word "cracker" is typed on a website, especially when directed at a single person. On the other hand, if I were to call somebody a "nigger" (not that I would), I would be attacked and most likely have the post removed (which may very well happen to this post), and maybe even a ban from the site. Why is there duality on that issue? How come racist terms about whites are OK when ones about minorities are untouchable? I mean, even I don't care when the word cracker is used, but I felt...different about typing the N word. Why? Why?

      MoS is a racist. Giggity giggity goo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming View Post
      I have always wondered why nobody cares if the word "cracker" is typed on a website, especially when directed at a single person. On the other hand, if I were to call somebody a "nigger" (not that I would), I would be attacked and most likely have the post removed (which may very well happen to this post), and maybe even a ban from the site. Why is there duality on that issue? How come racist terms about whites are OK when ones about minorities are untouchable? I mean, even I don't care when the word cracker is used, but I felt...different about typing the N word. Why? Why?
      Not that I agree with or support the double standard, but to try to clarify it a bit:

      I believe it's because of the origins of the words, and what they imply (outside of the obvious racial difference, of course).

      To call someone a nigger, and mean it, you are calling them, basically, a worthless piece of shit. You're saying they are good for nothing but washing your underwear and picking your cotton - for beating, raping, spitting on, stoning, etc. You are invoking the mentality that hung men, women and children for simply being born of a certain color. It is the single, worst slur (given the context and the mind-frame that you are giving appraisal to) that you can call someone. Can you think of a word that carries that much weight?

      To call someone a cracker, you are essentially calling them a "whip-cracker." You are calling them a conceited supremist, who loves to boss people around and impose their will (or even beat) on them. More or less, that's all the word implies.

      It's basically the difference between making fun of a Jew for his ancestors burning in Auschwitz, and calling a German a Nazi. One is definitely more offensive than the other, IMO.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Give me some quick reasons why. I need to hear 'em.
      1) He shares many of Hilary's socialistic/Communistic views and motives with respect to both social and economic issues. AND foreign policy.

      2) He's already promised to raise taxes.

      3) He's already expressed his desire to bail on the war, leaving the little success and progress we've made to dry up and wither away to nothing; leaving us much worse off than when we started.

      4) The Muslim extremists have already pledged to destroy us from the inside. What greater encouragement and moral boost to their evil cause than to elect a fellow Muslim as our president?

      5) He's yet another stone cold Liberal. Liberalism = disguised socialism; even more so in today's world.

      That's a start.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Not that I agree with or support the double standard, but to try to clarify it a bit:

      I believe it's because of the origins of the words, and what they imply (outside of the obvious racial difference, of course).

      To call someone a nigger, and mean it, you are calling them, basically, a worthless piece of shit. You're saying they are good for nothing but washing your underwear and picking your cotton - for beating, raping, spitting on, stoning, etc. You are invoking the mentality that hung men, women and children for simply being born of a certain color. It is the single, worst slur (given the context and the mind-frame that you are giving appraisal to) that you can call someone. Can you think of a word that carries that much weight?

      To call someone a cracker, you are essentially calling them a "whip-cracker." You are calling them a conceited supremist, who loves to boss people around and impose their will (or even beat) on them. More or less, that's all the word implies.

      It's basically the difference between making fun of a Jew for his ancestors burning in Auschwitz, and calling a German a Nazi. One is definitely more offensive than the other, IMO.
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      hes actually not muslim but still hes a terribly bad politician, hes an exper liar, i would LOVE to see an HONEST black candidate, i feel america needs a black, or brown, or woman, or asian president, its unfair, every president has been white male and usually filthy rich

      right now were stuck with nobody, except Ron Paul, i love the guy, hes amazing, and i hope he inspires future libertarians across race and gender

      anyways so obama wants to engage with pakistan and iran, we have 2 wars to fight, we dont need 2 more honestly

      also hes an open border liberal, wants to spend 100+ billion a year on mandated health insurance, how can a man say

      "im gonna fix the economy"

      while he proposes to raise taxes worse then bush has
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      Has nobody ever been taught science in school. Its like some people are retarded to reality itself.

      Unfuckingbelievable.


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      mes, Obama supports a pre-emptive nuke strike on iran. A country that is no threat to america
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      Quote Originally Posted by ranma187 View Post
      mes, Obama supports a pre-emptive nuke strike on iran. A country that is no threat to america
      Is that for real?

      Worst possible decision ever.

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      That's a big fat NO on Obama.

      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      hes actually not muslim
      His parents is as Muslim as they come. He himself WAS RAISED AS A MUSLIM. Don't don't try to play down his "Muslim-ness".

      i feel America needs a black, or brown, or woman, or asian president, its unfair, every president has been white male and usually filthy rich
      Uhmm, no? Why do we "need" a black president? Why do we NEED an Asian? Why do we NEED a woman? Answer: We don't NEED any of that. All we NEED is an HONEST, GOOD president... whomever they may be.

      How racist can you be? Political correctness - which is what you're spewing forth - is a huge part of the problem. I don't give a crap what gender or color. But I absolutely despise this notion that we need some one based on their race or gender. That's absolutely ridiculous.

      right now were stuck with nobody, except Ron Paul, i love the guy, hes amazing, and i hope he inspires future libertarians across race and gender
      Uhm, screw Ron Paul. To be blunt.

      anyways so obama wants to engage with pakistan and iran, we have 2 wars to fight, we dont need 2 more honestly
      He's as wishy-washy as they come. His bent on bailing from the current endeavours. That's all we need to know. The only way to win a war is to fight to win, NOT fight to lose. And showing the willingness to cave and bow to political pressure from those who are hell-bent on destroying us by any means necessary is NOT the answer: to ANY problem.

      also hes an open border liberal, wants to spend 100+ billion a year on mandated health insurance, how can a man say
      Thank for bringing those us. You're right on the money there. What America NEEDS is to ENFORCE our immigration policy (just like every other nation in the world does). I'm sick and tired of Mexico walking all over us and blatantly disregarding our laws and mocking our borders. And I'm sick and tired of our frickin' politicians (yes, Bush included) looking the other way and pretending there is no problem. There IS a problem and it's a huge problem. Open your damn eyes, Washington.

      And you're right about the socialised health care. Governmentally supplied health care is a TERRIBELY huge mistake. Too many people are snowed over by the feel-go sound of it but, make no mistake, it would be a huge turn for the worse.

      Government is NEVER the solution for things of that - or just about any other - nature. Don't think that because countries like Canada have national health care that it works. It does not work. What is does is lower the standards, clog up the system, waste money and chase people with serious medical problems to seek help out of the country (e.g. America).

      Remember, Liberalism (and by extension, the Democratic party) is about feel-good, sound-good rhetoric lacking substance and realism, NOT comprehensive, practical solutions. Liberalism is about gaining greater and greater control over the masses and their everyday goings-on. That is NOT and NEVER is the answer: to ANY problem a country faces. In fact, it's extremely counter-productive and serves only to take away rights and freedoms.

      Don't believe me? Better think again. We do not want or need Barrack Obama. If any of you think Bush was a step in the wrong direction, you haven't seen anything yet.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucidbulbs View Post
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      Awww.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grod View Post
      Yeah I know.

      Gestalt where were you in chat?
      Either doing homework or playing a game that took the whole computer screen.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GestaltAlteration View Post
      Is that for real?

      Worst possible decision ever.
      Yup, you think the economy is bad now?

      when/if mccain/hillary/obama/huckabee become president

      then youll see a depression, not a recession

      oh and to oneironaught

      howcome you called me racist lol


      the reason i said we need a non white pres, is because its really sad how white men have dominated international politics for WAY too long, i dont see that as being a racist comment?, maybe to my own race its racist, but im white and im ashamed of my race what it has done in the past, and still continues to do, well im moreso dissapointed in the HUMAN race, as a whole

      anyways i do not support obama or billary or mcinsane or chuckabee

      i think you may have mis-read a few things i said, or i mis-typed something

      anyways good reply im just trying to clarify what i said earlier, i wasn't hinting that we neccessarily HAVE to have a non white pres, but, it would be a nice step away from racism that STILL exists today
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      You know, I'm really sad because that thread closed. It was a great idea... And I had a few things thought up to tell.

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      "GH" what is your beef with ron paul? This is the first time I've seen americans believe in something good for the longest time. because of RP people are questioning this paradigm that we live under, this results in more critical thinking in the individual.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaught View Post
      Remember, Liberalism (and by extension, the Democratic party) is about feel-good, sound-good rhetoric lacking substance and realism, NOT comprehensive, practical solutions. Liberalism is about gaining greater and greater control over the masses and their everyday goings-on. That is NOT and NEVER is the answer: to ANY problem a country faces. In fact, it's extremely counter-productive and serves only to take away rights and freedoms.

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