Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

Actually, I dare you to try these techniques during the day... There will be no instant Wild's EVER unless your close to passing out...

If you perform Indirect Techniques you can have instant WILD's like I did. Where have I said that if you use the Direct Techniques during the day that you will have an instant WILD? As you incorrectly posted that the method of Indirect Techniques is a DEILD I replied to marwanin's post that the same techniques can be applied at any time of the day, the important difference being how to apply them. This proves that this isn't a DEILD method. From your post it is clear that you still haven't read the book.

School of Lucid Dreaming - Mr. Raduga & Students in Action!!!

Originally Posted by mcwillis

If you perform Indirect Techniques you can have instant WILD's like I did. Where have I said that if you use the Direct Techniques during the day that you will have an instant WILD? As you incorrectly posted that the method of Indirect Techniques is a DEILD I replied to marwanin's post that the same techniques can be applied at any time of the day, the important difference being how to apply them. This proves that this isn't a DEILD method. From your post it is clear that you still haven't read the book.

School of Lucid Dreaming - Mr. Raduga & Students in Action!!!

My post may be incorrect but, after looking at every one of the indirect techniques it says, immediately after waking from sleep, do not move, do not open your eyes, etc. That basically is a DEILD.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

immediately after waking from sleep, do not move, do not open your eyes, etc. That basically is a DEILD.

Ok so firstly we are going to have to mull over the semantics of a DEILD.

Quoting the Dream Guide Team of this forum on their description of DEILD's:

"However, if you are at the end of a REM phase you won't be able to DEILD."

Where in the book does it say you must practice as soon as you awaken from a dream? Mr. Raduga is referring to when you awaken at the end of a REM phase.

Quoting the Dream Guide Team of this forum on their description of DEILD's:

"In order to DEILD you have to have good dream recall. Not only so you won't forget your DEILD adventures, but also because you need to be aware enough of your dreams that you know when one has just ended. It is suggested that you have your dream recall at 10 or more dreams remembered per week before you attempt to DEILD."

Where does Mr. Raduga mention in the book that one must cultivate dream recall for Indirect Techniques to be successful? He doesn't because he is referring to when you awaken at the end of a REM cycle. 50% of students have a lucid dream or an obe over the course of a three day seminar like in the photo above. Do you think they all have great dream recall? The forum member moongrass nearly succeeded today on his first attempt because he has read the book and put it into practice. I like discussion but your arguement is without foundation because your folly was to initially pass judgement on a book you hadn't read.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Ok so firstly we are going to have to mull over the semantics of a DEILD.

Quoting the Dream Guide Team of this forum on their description of DEILD's:

"However, if you are at the end of a REM phase you won't be able to DEILD."

Where in the book does it say you must practice as soon as you awaken from a dream? Mr. Raduga is referring to when you awaken at the end of a REM phase.

Quoting the Dream Guide Team of this forum on their description of DEILD's:

"In order to DEILD you have to have good dream recall. Not only so you won't forget your DEILD adventures, but also because you need to be aware enough of your dreams that you know when one has just ended. It is suggested that you have your dream recall at 10 or more dreams remembered per week before you attempt to DEILD."

Where does Mr. Raduga mention in the book that one must cultivate dream recall for Indirect Techniques to be successful? He doesn't because he is referring to when you awaken at the end of a REM cycle. 50% of students have a lucid dream or an obe over the course of a three day seminar like in the photo above. Do you think they all have great dream recall? The forum member moongrass nearly succeeded today on his first attempt because he has read the book and put it into practice. I like discussion but your arguement is without foundation because your folly was to initially pass judgement on a book you hadn't read.

I have read about half of the book now. I do see now that all of my post were based on assumption's and false knowledge. Sorry for that mcwillis.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

I have read about half of the book now. I do see now that all of my post were based on assumption's and false knowledge. Sorry for that mcwillis.

You have no need to apologise to me my friend. I have in the past made the same mistake that you have. Peace

Originally Posted by mcwillis

You have no need to apologise to me my friend. I have in the past made the same mistake that you have. Peace

One quick question. If I wake up in the middle of the night and move a little, like open my eyes for just a second or maybe roll over, will the indirect techniques not work?

-Thanks

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

One quick question. If I wake up in the middle of the night and move a little, like open my eyes for just a second or maybe roll over, will the indirect techniques not work?

-Thanks

Mr. Raduga says if you roll over you can still seize the opportunity of using the "Forced Falling Asleep" Indirect Technique to start off a cycle of Indirect Techniques. This can produce a result. I find this one hard as I usually fall back to sleep. I too am practicing

for the dudes who sorta don't know what he's talking about he's talking about like sorta twitching when ur going into WILD. so basically a FILD but renamed. am i not correct?

Originally Posted by Aeroproxy

for the dudes who sorta don't know what he's talking about he's talking about like sorta twitching when ur going into WILD. so basically a FILD but renamed. am i not correct?

You also don't know what your talking about as you haven't read either the textbook or the workbook. This isn't remotely anything like FILD, find a dictionary and look up the word phantom. This is open source information that you can have in seconds. What ever happened to good old fashioned inquisitiveness and learning.

This thread is LEGIT it will work you just have to read the book. Last night I applied the same methods but sadly I forget to separated myself from my body to have an OBE so it did nothing and I fell back asleep. But it will work that was only my first night and I just read 25 pages the 20minutes before I fell asleep. This is very simple to learn and it come with great rewards. Its also free

Will try and post results this weekend...