Thread: Having trouble with W in WBTB.

Drink lots of water or liquids before bed and don't go to the bathroom so when you wake up, you will have to go to the bathroom. The will force you to get up and go unless you want to wet your pants. If you can, try to do it with the lights off so you don't wake yourself up to fast.

I've woken up and needed to go to the bathroom, and then laid in bed for another hour until I finally decided to get up. >.<

If you really want to get up, then put a really loud alarm clock under your bed so when it goes off, you will have to get up, go under your bed, and turn it off.

Originally Posted by iFatal

If you really want to get up, then put a really loud alarm clock under your bed so when it goes off, you will have to get up, go under your bed, and turn it off.

Then I climb back into bed and stay there for another hour.

Well if you really want to lucid dream then you have to have motivation if you can't even get out of bed for a simple WBTB then it doesn't look like you have mutch motivation to lucid dream. The only thing that is stopping you from lucid dreaming is you.

Sorry if that sounds kind of harsh but it's the truth.

Originally Posted by iFatal

Well if you really want to lucid dream then you have to have motivation if you can't even get out of bed for a simple WBTB then it doesn't look like you have mutch motivation to lucid dream. The only thing that is stopping you from lucid dreaming is you.

Sorry if that sounds kind of harsh but it's the truth.

I definitely agree.

This morning, I woke myself with an apple juice box. I then did my DJ, went to the bathroom, and prepared to do my WILD.

I found that I couldn't stay still. I kept turning and shifting. I tried to "count" myself to sleep. ("1, I'm dreaming, 2, I'm dreaming"). I eventually fell asleep normally and drifted in and out until I had to get out of bed.

I think I should have taken only a few sips of juice and just jotted down the main points in my DJ. I never saw any HI because I kept moving. I think, next time, I need to not over-wake, or so.

It takes practice to achieve the right balance. Keep practicing.

Sometimes it is easier to wake without an alarm clock. It sounds counter intuitive. When you wake yourself up, you naturally do so at the right time in your sleep cycle. As you are falling asleep at night, tell yourself you will wake up after every dream.

I have tried to wake myself up by, before going to sleep, telling myself repeatedly that I will wake up at a certain time while visualizing that particular time in a variety of formats (four in the morning, 4am, 4 o'clock in the morning, etc) and I did it subliminal message style (like, flashing it in front of my eyes randomly) and I've woken up in the middle of the night every single time. Curious thing, the brain is.

I might experiment with waking up sans clock, but for now I want to try to WILD successfully once and then start exploring more lucid dreaming things. Next morning I'm going to try toning the juice down and just stay in my room.

I came to this thread with a laugh, because this is totally the story of my life. I hate mornings, and hate waking up. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE. I can have something I REALLY want to do the next morning, or have to, like school or work. It makes no difference. I can be all excited about it the night before, and it won't matter. When I wake up in the morning, nothing is more important to me in the world than laying in bed. To me, it has nothing to do with motivation. This was my biggest worry when getting interested in lucid dreaming, that I wouldn't be able to wake myself up. However, I've only been doing this for a couple days and I've had no trouble at all so far, but I think it might be because it's still new, so I'm still really excited about it, so that gets me out of bed. But I'm worried that after days or weeks with no concrete results, my morning mind will say "Why should I torture myself like this when I'm probably not going to accomplish anything?" even when I know I'll be kicking myself for the rest of the day for not trying.

Well, sorry to post this and not have any ideas. I have yet to figure it out, myself. Good luck to the both of us!

Originally Posted by Haerodiel

I came to this thread with a laugh, because this is totally the story of my life. I hate mornings, and hate waking up. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE. I can have something I REALLY want to do the next morning, or have to, like school or work. It makes no difference. I can be all excited about it the night before, and it won't matter. When I wake up in the morning, nothing is more important to me in the world than laying in bed. To me, it has nothing to do with motivation. This was my biggest worry when getting interested in lucid dreaming, that I wouldn't be able to wake myself up. However, I've only been doing this for a couple days and I've had no trouble at all so far, but I think it might be because it's still new, so I'm still really excited about it, so that gets me out of bed. But I'm worried that after days or weeks with no concrete results, my morning mind will say "Why should I torture myself like this when I'm probably not going to accomplish anything?" even when I know I'll be kicking myself for the rest of the day for not trying.




Well, sorry to post this and not have any ideas. I have yet to figure it out, myself. Good luck to the both of us!

Me 3.

Originally Posted by Rawracookie

I've woken up and needed to go to the bathroom, and then laid in bed for another hour until I finally decided to get up. >.<

Try to get creative... perhaps try the opposite, don't allow yourself anything to drink/eat, so that when you wake up you have to get out of bed because you are so hungry/thirsty. Think of something that you enjoy/crave/want/desire that will literally "force" you to have to get out of bed, but that you are doing in because you truly want to.

My first WBTB, I woke up and expected to go right back to sleep, but I couldn't. I never actually "got out" of bed, but grabbed my laptop and watched a show for 2 hours, got sleepy, turned it off and had an LD.

But like I said, if you need to get out of the bed and move around and you have difficulty (not all the simple techniques work for everyone) then get creative, try some reverse ideas on yourself.

I think the drinking after I wake up works fairly well for me. I've had one DILD, so I hope my experience in realizing nothing is real will help me do more LD's.