I too don't understand what an illogical thought is. |
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Incoherent and dreamlike, to a certain degree everyone experiences some scrambled thoughts and images upon sleep onset whether they remember them or not. If you haven't experienced this then next time you fall asleep try to be more aware of the hypnagogic state. |
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Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
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I too don't understand what an illogical thought is. |
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Yep, that's possible. It's a thought that makes no sense at all. When you recognize it you'll be like 'Wait...what? Why on earth did I think that?' Don't pay too much attention to your thoughts while listening for them, because that will keep you awake and prevent them for coming. |
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Not if you don't force them. Let it 'flow'. |
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BTW guys, just something worth mentioning, this free-falling is very useful for meditation as well. Don't do it while laying down, because that is a guaranteed falling asleep Unless you want to fall asleep ofcourse |
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If you wake up during the early morning, how long does it personally take for you to get illogical thoughts. |
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Whats an ideal time to wake up to try induce this. |
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It depends which part of the night you wake up in and how many hours of sleep you got, i suppose. |
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Last night i tried this when i was going to sleep even though i knew i would hardly succeed since i am just going to bed and not WBTB-ing, but it worked!I was in a forest saw a group of people pushed them away started flying grabbed a woman threw her on the ground and flew over the whole forest and 1 min later the dream fell apart.I think it works yeah going to try it this night too GREAT METHOD! |
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Hi Jeff, I have a question for you, I have tried using your free fall technique, everything works great but for one thing. When I get illogical thoughts and images, they seem to last for a few short seconds only, and I get snapped right out into controlled awake state, with logical thinking. Is there a way to elongate that for me? So that I can continue being in that state? |
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Has anyone tried combining this tech with crazyinsanes CAN-WILD? seems like it would be a good idea, might make a thread on it but anyone? input, thanks |
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wow i know little about lucid dreaming and have never read this post, but i always used to try make myself think illogical thoughts to help me sleep quicker. |
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Wow can't WAIT to try this with all the positive feedback, get ready for my first WILD guys! |
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I tried this yesterday and I sense I was close but no dice. Interesting as I think I was intuitively doing this when I had my first lucid dreams aged 15-16. The trouble was I couldn't get myself to relax - common problem with WBTB. Also I think my wake cycle was not optimally timed - only sleep 5 hours and disturbed in between. Seemed like my super long dream periods occurred several hours later. Seemed like when I switched to breathing the imagery also ceased ( although I could feel a sensation in my body indicating the beginnings of sleep paralysis it never fully materialised ) Then I had to do the illogical weighted jacket thing and cycled between the two. Finally I got fed up and rolled over, went to sleep. |
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Last edited by supernaut76; 07-15-2012 at 03:54 AM.
This may well be a good technique for me. I started focusing on LDing at the beginning of June, and I've become lucid around 10 times (with 6 proper LDs as a result). The majority of these were WILDs, but I've never intentionally gone into SP; I've just found myself in SP and been able to WILD from there. This is often because I spot how dreamlike and illogical my thoughts are as I'm right on the verge of sleeping (so a little later than this guide suggests), although it's certainly not consistent. |
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This wouldn't work for me. In my experience I was never able to WILD at the beginning of the night. I absolutely have to do WBTB. |
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nice,i think i can find a place for it in my program. |
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