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I don't see anything strange with your WILD. There is no such thing as orthodox WILD. You say you have read many tutorials, and I bet they are all different. That's for a good reason. Every method may work for somebody, and every experience is different. |
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Thanks a lot gab, this set of tutorials is the most detailed I've seen. The only thing I worry about is why my cycle worked like that, it seems I have a lot of testing to do. By the way, someone posted after me in the general lucid discussion section and it has been given my name as starter accidentally |
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I have moved this thread from General Lucid here, to WILD. Is that what you mean? |
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Oh about this accident thing, it was nothing, just me being a noob, it was actually the last poster's name! |
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I am going crazy The people who don't try are the people that succeed... ^-^ I have noticed the pattern before but now it's more clear than ever... |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-14-2012 at 02:52 PM.
Thanks MasterMind, I think I finally know the key. It's just to fall asleep. All the techniques for relaxation and visualisations etc are all good but, I was putting waaay too much effort!! It seems that the key is just to fall asleep. You don't need to consciously relax, when you sleep at your regular position you relax, the only thing left is the awareness part. Tonight I'm trying a new thing based on that suggestion and I'll be back with feedback! |
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So I'm back with the new thing I was talking about! It's my second day in dreamviews, yesterday I had my first WILD after weeks of having one and today I had the second just by representing the thing I did yesterday! It's such a personal thing, I think it won't work for everybody, if it hardly works for somebody, but I think can be adjusted easily to one's personal cycle to make it happen. |
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I tried for 2 months before I had my first lucid dream, then stopped trying during the summer. Sometime around when school started I remembered and came back here and that night I had 2 LDs, then a few more and a couple WILDs without doing anything. I don't think we need techniques or specific rules of what to do, just knowing you can do it will make it a lot easier. But RCs do help me, that's how I've had all my LDs except the 2 WILDs. |
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I liked everything! (except the part with astral crap new-age nonsense ^-^) No harm done, I am just saying explore and expand your awareness and see what you find With this new "ability" you have an oppurunity to explore your own adventure. Check out some more pragmatic OBE/astral projection explorers like Robert Monroe or Thomas Campbell and then see if you get the same conclusions. |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-15-2012 at 08:24 AM.
Thanks for your kind words mastermind! |
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Last edited by tangerine; 10-15-2012 at 12:58 PM. Reason: I forgot, about the time...
Thanks And don't worry I am not offended, I don't understand the metaphysical either. |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-15-2012 at 02:03 PM.
Thanks a lot MasterMind, you gave me a lot of food for thought! |
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Last edited by tangerine; 10-15-2012 at 03:08 PM.
Thanks My signature is actually just a cool moon picture I found somewhere and then I used pixlr.com to edit use the floating man from Johnossi's Mavericks album |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-15-2012 at 04:09 PM.
Hey MasterMind |
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Hey MasterMind |
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Aww ok too bad But don't be discouraged, because I got good news |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-16-2012 at 07:08 AM.
My friend had insomnia, Robert Monroe had insomnia, and I have heard of other people having insomnia and witnessing the first stage of sleep and they all had one thing in common. |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-16-2012 at 01:44 PM.
Hey thanks, you too! |
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Thanks a lot everyone, for helping me find my way! |
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Me and tangerine have talked and tried with a passive way to induce a lucid dream, and it is actually really easy. |
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Last edited by MasterMind; 10-18-2012 at 06:52 AM.
I get the feeling that KingYoshi stumbled on this exact thing as his guide recommends changing position every ten minutes or so. Billybob and Mzzkc have both also used discomfort. I have a feeling though that the discomfort is not an essential element and is more of an insomnia induction, which does seem to be an important element. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
Nah, man. Discomfort is just another anchor to keep your consciousness grounded to something as you drift. Same as whitenoise, counting, and all that other tech. |
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I've read yours and Billybob's guides many times, and I've thought I internalised the information, in theory. But when I'm in the field the noob mentality seems to take over again. :/ |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
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