Thread: Three specific questions regarding WILD

1) First let's clarify that SP is not the same thing as someone feeling vibrations or seeing colors. The vibrations and images are H.I or H.H. and anyone what so ever can achieve them with only a little practice. SP involves inability to move. I do not mention this for Empedocles, as I know he is aware, but just to clarify for general readers. There are two basic forms of WILD. The first involves maintaining awareness and refusing to give it up until a dream forms. this is a difficult art form, and is the type where lots of H.I and H.H occur. You repeat a phrase or count and so on, while trying to relax enough for your body to sleep. This form is difficult as it really is a fairly advanced meditation like mental ability. When using this form one may enter nREM stages and that is where all sorts of crazy images and sensations take place. this is pretty much the style you seem aware of.
What is the other style/ form? The method Sageous and Myzzk teach is not at all like this. It is a much easier form, but offers less control and perhaps has a lower rate of success. It does however have major advantages. A clear advantage that I see is little time is wasted and your night suffers little from sleeplessness. In the second form, the key difference is that falling asleep is of high priority. You simply do something like a mantra to assist in carrying some hint of awareness in to the first few minutes of sleep. But here is the big difference,,, you go the hell to sleep one way or the other. the focus on falling swiftly into sleep means H.I. and awareness of REM atonia are much less likely, in fact they play little or no role.
I hope everyone can see the difference? In one version you do your anchor, such as counting and refuse to loose awareness. this may prevent sleep, but if you can sleep you stay aware even in nREM and can be fully aware for an hour or more while experiencing vivid hallucinations. If awareness begins to fade you must focus, and focus hurts the chance of sleep. In the other version, you have the anchor (mantra/ counting) running quietly in the background and try to fall asleep. As in sleep is the main goal.
Both work and the second is actually easier and disturbs sleep less. I personally feel that the results are not nearly as likely with the second (sleep as the goal) and that the degree of mental sharpness can be less also upon attaining lucidity. So, why use the second form (taught by Sageous and Myzzk)? Well it has huge advantages! You do not need to reach any specific state such as REM atonia. You do not waste any of your night in sleeplessness. Finally, it does not drive you crazy with worrying about moving or swallowing. That is a huge plus.
If I have a lot of time and am serious about forcing myself to have an LD and also maintain high awareness in order to complete goals, then I use the first form (refuse to loose awareness, even at the cost of sleeplessness). On most nights however, as I need to get lots of sleep for work, I just follow the basic ideas Sageous teaches. You mention that he talks about H.I? Well he does not use them as part of his system. he actually encourages you to simply accept them if they occur, but not to let them prevent you from moving deeper into sleep.
My apologies to both gifted dreamers (Sageous and Myzzk) if I have misrepresented their general teachings.

2) The method I like to use if visualizing kinetics. I do not start with visuals. I start with imagining the sensation of walking. I pretend I can feel myself strolling along. If you are in a sleep phase (as I assume SP must be) you should start feeling the visualized subject. After I can feel myself walking I then allow myself to become aware of what arises naturally in my visual field. I then expand on what is there. Perhaps the left side of the field of vision has green swirls, I may think that is branches blowing in the wind. If blobs are bouncing around I think 'oh those are rabbits running in a field of wheat.' I wait until some of the visuals actually take a form based on my thoughts, them I impose the thought of what I want to see, "I am about to see some houses."