Thread: Yoshi's WILD Technique...

Getting these colored blobs is a good sign. SP is trying to fully set in. You are supposed to "just go to sleep," but you need to remain conscious as well. Once these colored blobs show, don't really react to them. Just continue to observe everything in your vision and act as if nothing unusual is happening. You need to go about the process as if this is your 1,000th time doing it. Just chill and let the hallucinations do whatever they want. If they disappear, just continue to lay there and wait for them to return. In this manner, your anchor is your vision. Never stay observing and just continue to fall into a deeper and deeper sense of relaxation. Getting the HI to show and SP to set in is half the battle. From there just keep doing what you did to get there. Relaxing and allowing yourself to fall asleep as you observe the process.

hello again sorry for all these questions, but I have another problem: Now that im not crashing out, im just laying in my bed, and nothing happens! I've been close to SP before, but now, Im not ever near to get one! AH! it is soo annoying! And SP do NEVER hit right after I turn around, it feels like its waking me up again... I dont know why, it just seems like turning around is never going to lead to a SP... :/

Originally Posted by WDr

hello again sorry for all these questions, but I have another problem: Now that im not crashing out, im just laying in my bed, and nothing happens! I've been close to SP before, but now, Im not ever near to get one! AH! it is soo annoying! And SP do NEVER hit right after I turn around, it feels like its waking me up again... I dont know why, it just seems like turning around is never going to lead to a SP... :/

Well, if you think this, than it won't. Lucid dreaming is all in your mind. If you think something won't work, then it likely never will. If you are laying in bed with no results, then you simply aren't falling asleep. When you give up trying what do you do exactly?

I just try to sleep without thinking about LDs and stuff... Im going to try WILDing to night. Any tips for getting into SP?

Hmm, try to follow the technique without moving/rolling over this time. You simply may be one of those dreamers who hit SP easer without moving at all. Don't worry about small things like swallowing, but try not to move excessively. See if that works out better for you.

Do you bother with any breathing/counting techniques, KingYoshi? What keeps you anchored? If you observe HI/HH for your anchor is there a chance you could fall into a non-lucid sleep?

I will do this.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Do you bother with any breathing/counting techniques, KingYoshi? What keeps you anchored? If you observe HI/HH for your anchor is there a chance you could fall into a non-lucid sleep?

Yeah, there is always that chance. I would rather fall into non-lucid sleep than lay awake for long periods of time without transitioning. That is why I try to be subtle with my anchor. Recently though (passed several months), I have been running a fan and using fan noise to anchor me as well. Once I get into SP though, I still primarily use observing my HI/HH as the anchor.

I'm having some trouble getting through the vibrations. I've read that you have to relax through them, but when I tried going limp I lost some of my paralysis. Have you got any tips on that part of WILDing or do you sort of just have to bear through it?

Having done some further reading, I kinda regret not sticking with it, I was beginning to get some scenes playing in my mind.

Much thanks for this tutorial KingYoshi, last night I got to SP for the first time. I've been attempting of an on for a while but I think what was holding me back was that I would try to be too still, and then worry when I needed to scratch and itch or something. Waiting for a while and relaxing then switching positions really seems to help out a lot. It was a strange experience, I don't really remember the onset of the SP sensations, just that it felt like a large weight on me and my body was going numb.

One thing that helps me a lot is medatation. I recently got a book on a type of buddhist medatation vipissana meditation. It really helps to learn how to passivley watch thoughts as they come and go and not really participate in them.

Thanks again and now that I did it one time I am sure it won't be so difficult to do it again!

Got to SP, but then I saw a man with an impossibly wide smile and no other facial features besides the bumpy texture of his skin. It was accompanied by a buzzing noise. That unsettled me out of focus. I fell asleep, but wasn't lucid.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

I'm having some trouble getting through the vibrations. I've read that you have to relax through them, but when I tried going limp I lost some of my paralysis. Have you got any tips on that part of WILDing or do you sort of just have to bear through it?

Having done some further reading, I kinda regret not sticking with it, I was beginning to get some scenes playing in my mind.

Yeah, just stick to it and try to wait it out. Also, try to keep your body limp throughout the entire process. You shouldn't really have to "go limp," you should already be as limp and relaxed as possible. Its ok though, this was some valuable experience. Just keep working at it and learning from passed attempts. Good luck to you...I know you can do it !

Originally Posted by MatrixMaster92

Much thanks for this tutorial KingYoshi, last night I got to SP for the first time. I've been attempting of an on for a while but I think what was holding me back was that I would try to be too still, and then worry when I needed to scratch and itch or something. Waiting for a while and relaxing then switching positions really seems to help out a lot. It was a strange experience, I don't really remember the onset of the SP sensations, just that it felt like a large weight on me and my body was going numb.

One thing that helps me a lot is medatation. I recently got a book on a type of buddhist medatation vipissana meditation. It really helps to learn how to passivley watch thoughts as they come and go and not really participate in them.

Thanks again and now that I did it one time I am sure it won't be so difficult to do it again!

Nice job and nice progress. Just keep working at it and it will become easier and easier for you. Meditation is highly recommended across the site and seems to really help with the many mental aspects of dreaming.

Originally Posted by Pokerface

Got to SP, but then I saw a man with an impossibly wide smile and no other facial features besides the bumpy texture of his skin. It was accompanied by a buzzing noise. That unsettled me out of focus. I fell asleep, but wasn't lucid.

Ah, well that is some nice progress. The more you get into SP, the easier it will be to get used to these strange hallucinations. Just try to observe them without really thinking about them too much. Just keep practicing and you will soon be able to look passed that unsettled feeling.

Hey Yoshi..i did try your technique last night out of curiosity...I done all the flexing etc then lay on my side for 10 mins, decided to lie on other side then and after a very short while i got the buzzing..ha ha it works like a charm, i didnt let it go past the buzzing i got myself out of it as i had a bad couple of day of stressfullness and i didn't want a bad one..anyway thanks so much for your tips, i didnt do the eye flicker but it still worked, just under half hour thats all it took and that was first thing when i went to bed, thank you, thank you, thank you ...LOL

Awesome! Congrats on your success and hopefully next time you can go all the way with it !

Well I plan to try this technique tonight. I'm a little nervous however. I'm the kinda of person that is easily scared and every accidental sleep paralysis I have ever experienced was terrifying for two reasons, before this time I thought ghosts were holding me down( I don't have to worry about this anymore) and two that during the paralysis I cannot break free if I want to. I can't move no matter how hard I try and even when trying my hardest to get up I eventually even start seeing through my eyelids. Normally this is when I start to relax because I realize that struggling is no good and then I just focus on finally getting up. This time I'm going to try to go balls to walls and just wait it out and see what happens.

Yeah, I used to be the exact same way. Finally, I just said f*** it! I powered through a few experiences and it only became easier for me afterwards. They also got progressively less frightening as I continued to practice WILDing. Good luck to you!

Well I have good news and bad news. Bad news is I couldn't get to sleep paralysis, but I think I know my general problem. Good news I guess by thinking about lucid so much that I actually had one where I gained lucidity twice throughout the dream and lost it both times -_-. Gotta learn to keep remebering that I'm dreaming. Well atleast the spinning technique is extremely helpful for dream stabilization so they didn't lie lol cause it worked like a charm.

Awesome! Congrats on your lucidity. I always like to perform several RCs upon becoming lucid. Even if I already know for sure I am dreaming, the RCs help really plant the, "I am dreaming," thought. Nice progress and just keep your mind on dreaming. This can definitely help spark a few lucids and I'm sure it will continue to do so. Good luck to you and just keep at it!

Oh my god, I DID IT!

I flipped over to my side after a while and didn't move. I saw a few colors, but nothing much. Then I could feel my wooden floor like I was laying on the ground and some images began to come into view. Then I appeared back in bed, awake. I figured I should do a reality check just incase. It worked! I wanted to stabilize the dream but it ended so quickly I never got the chance to. Even though it was short I still can't believe I WILDed.

Tried again last night and failed. I plan to keep trying, but I'm trying to find out my problem. OK well my attempts kinda go like this I start counting backwards from 100 and if I mess up I start over. Eventually I can't really feel my limbs, My breathing will change as well as my heart rate, and I will get occasional tingling sensations in random parts of my body for like 2 seconds that will disappear. Also while attempting this I will get random twitches in my finger, toes, and legs. Is this normal? I think that I'm focusing to hard on counting backwards and it just won't allow me to fall asleep, but I have nothing else to focus on so I kinda just fail.

Originally Posted by Anthonyyy0

Oh my god, I DID IT!

I flipped over to my side after a while and didn't move. I saw a few colors, but nothing much. Then I could feel my wooden floor like I was laying on the ground and some images began to come into view. Then I appeared back in bed, awake. I figured I should do a reality check just incase. It worked! I wanted to stabilize the dream but it ended so quickly I never got the chance to. Even though it was short I still can't believe I WILDed.

Awesome! Congrats on your success! Now you know you can do it and hopefully it will only get easier and easier for you from here on out. Very nice job!

Originally Posted by Yosma

Tried again last night and failed. I plan to keep trying, but I'm trying to find out my problem. OK well my attempts kinda go like this I start counting backwards from 100 and if I mess up I start over. Eventually I can't really feel my limbs, My breathing will change as well as my heart rate, and I will get occasional tingling sensations in random parts of my body for like 2 seconds that will disappear. Also while attempting this I will get random twitches in my finger, toes, and legs. Is this normal? I think that I'm focusing to hard on counting backwards and it just won't allow me to fall asleep, but I have nothing else to focus on so I kinda just fail.

Yeah, the twitches are completely normal. Just try to ignore them and stay nice and relaxed. You are getting close. The breathing and heart rate changes are hallucinations, so don't worry about them. You seem to be getting that "pulsing SP" which tends to happen right before it fully sets in. You are very close and just need to keep practicing. Once you get to this point, make sure you are super relaxed and still striving toward sleep. Don't let the sensations surprise you or cause you to draw too much attention to them. Once you start getting these sensations, I recommend you stop counting and just push toward sleep. Since you are so close to SP at this point, it should kick in before you lose consciousness. Then you can switch your anchor/lite focus over to the SP itself.

GAAAHHH....so frustrating. I tried this during and afternoon nap and I got closer, but I just couldn't do it. This time my lips got numb and I felt a slight tingling over my whole body as well as the effects from last time. Thinking that SP was just around the corner I started to just relax and try and enter sleep. I sat there for a good 15 minutes and nothing happened so I rolled over. I then got the same effects as last time, but just couldn't hit that last point. Maybe I just wasn't tired enough. So hopefully when I try this with WBTB tonight I will be more succcessful.

Yeah, if you find yourself laying awake for long periods of time without hitting full SP, you simply aren't falling asleep. It is possible that you just may not have been tired enough.

last time I tried my eyes twitched madly